What did you sing at church today?

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  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    We are running a week or so behind the Lectionary and were looking at the first verses of 1 Corinthians 15. We had:

    “Crown him with many crowns” (Diademata).
    “See what a morning” (Getty/Townend).
    “These are the facts” (Epiphany Hymn).
    “Now the green blade rises”.
    “I know that my Redeemer lives” (Wilton).

    HMQ didn't get a look in, nor her Special Tune. OTOH I think Jesus might have been mentioned once or twice ...


  • :lol:

    What about that line in Crown Him With Many Crowns which goes *Hark how the heavenly anthem drowns all music but its own...*?
    :naughty:
  • Ah, but that not a national anthem (although "our citizenship is in heaven").
  • Ah, but that not a national anthem (although "our citizenship is in heaven").

    Aye, although it would be more worthy to defend my opposition to monarchist anthems in church by saying "No King but Jesus!" I'm too jaded these days and I'm more likely to quote the Nac Mac Feegle - "Nae King! Nae Quin! We willne be fooled again!"
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Ah, but that not a national anthem (although "our citizenship is in heaven").

    Aye, although it would be more worthy to defend my opposition to monarchist anthems in church by saying "No King but Jesus!" I'm too jaded these days and I'm more likely to quote the Nac Mac Feegle - "Nae King! Nae Quin! We willne be fooled again!"

    Well, yes.

    ISTM that that second line in CHWMC does have a slight touch of the *No King but Jesus!* about it...
  • ZappaZappa Shipmate
    Each week I inflict the little faith community that I am overseeing at the moment with some thoughts about the scriptural passages they hear and the hymns they sing, kind of serendiptous musing about the author, the era, the tune, the lyrics or perhaps even my subjective experience of the hymn. I won't inflict these on you every time, but ...

    Processional (314) “Immortal, Invisible”

    The hymn was originally considerably more dour than it is today—it was composed, after all, by a “Wee Free” Presbyterian (though then set to a Welsh folk tune). Based on 1 Timothy 1:17, it takes us into the mysteries of the God we cannot see, cannot (despite the efforts of some) prove, but to whom we are asked to simply, slowly, sometimes painfully surrender ourselves. The original version pleaded that the Invisible Immortal God would “take the vile from our heart” - possibly not the sort of prayer we offer too often today, though if we’re honest God has a bit of that kind of work to do on us!

    Gradual: 35 “A New Commandment”

    … probably doesn’t need much explanation. Amongst other teachings, Jesus, at John 13:34, summarizes the Law, Torah. Matthew would emphasize he does not replace the Law. The “new” commandment actually isn’t very new (Lev. 19:18). Jesus. though, radically alters its weight. It is a commandment (not to be messed with, not a suggestion), but it is to be embodied in the whole of our lives and fuelled, as it were, by our immersion in God. Actually Leviticus 19:18 says that, too. But Jesus adds the Jesus dimension: he embodies this total immersion in divine love, and asks us to ask him to be transformed so that we do (little by little, never enough) too. It’s no longer I who live.

    Offertory 144 “Dear Lord and Father of Mankind”

    For those of us aware of the resonances of exclusive language this hymn is a little marred, but its truths are deeper than the scars … neither “humankind” nor “humanity” fit that first line and I haven't worked a suitable rewrite). A hugely popular traditional hymn, the words are an excerpt from a longer poem by Quaker poet John Greenleaf Whittier. Funnily enough the original poem picks up hints of human efforts to find meaning in intoxication—and suggests firmly that immersion in prayer is a better option. The poet originally included rites and rituals as a form of intoxication—Whittier was not fussed about the trimmings of liturgy! But let’s sit with that wonderful sense of the still small voice that can whisper to us (inaudibly, for most of us) yet speak through the earthquake, wind and fire. It was no accident that this hymn appeared in the Dunkirk scenes of the film Atonement.

    Communion: (501) “O Holy Spirit”

    These ancient verses pick up the “how” of “Christ who Lives in me.” Language of science is helpful, though as a metaphor, not an explanation. “Infusion,” “saturation,” “immersion” … all those terms might be helpful. These lines pick up the idea of “enflaming” … another biblical term is “inspire” (breathe into). Whatever word we use it speaks of God taking us, taking our lives and filling them with God’s Spirit, Christ’s Spirit, “Christness.” And then inspiring us to be a praising people of God. The Pentecostals will sometimes enact, or perhaps experience, this in forms of “slaying in the Spirit.” I am cautious about these, as they can too easy be manipulated by the ego of the on stage leadership. Nevertheless, when Charles Coffin wrote these simple words around the early 18th century he was certainly wanting us to be, one way or another, immersed in God.

    Recessional 332 “I, the Lord of Sea and Sky”

    When we sang this in November I emphasized Dan Schutte’s immersion (that word again) in the rites and rhythms of liturgy. These are a powerful tool of surrender to Christ, of becoming the “no longer I that lives.” So we have come full circle, back to the stylized wrestling with God that was the hallmark of the prophets’ call: “Me? Not me! Oh … oh, well I guess. But please, Lord, help me!”

    etc
  • ISTM that that second line in CHWMC does have a slight touch of the *No King but Jesus!* about it...
    I have been in conversation with some of my Baptist peers and have been surprised at their support for the Monarchy. Historically (i.e, c.1600 etc) they would have been firmly republican.

  • ISTM that that second line in CHWMC does have a slight touch of the *No King but Jesus!* about it...
    I have been in conversation with some of my Baptist peers and have been surprised at their support for the Monarchy. Historically (i.e, c.1600 etc) they would have been firmly republican.

    That's one of the reasons that explain why Baptists need to rediscover their radical origins. We've become safe and need to be dangerous
  • ISTM that that second line in CHWMC does have a slight touch of the *No King but Jesus!* about it...
    I have been in conversation with some of my Baptist peers and have been surprised at their support for the Monarchy. Historically (i.e, c.1600 etc) they would have been firmly republican.

    That's one of the reasons that explain why Baptists need to rediscover their radical origins. We've become safe and need to be dangerous

    Yes, I'm surprised, too. I can understand the C of E's sometimes slavish praise of monarchy, but you radicals... :flushed:

  • We followed the example set by @Arethosemyfeet with Holy, Holy, Holy and Lord, You Have Come to the Lakeshore. In addition we had:

    Jesus Calls Us/GALILEE
    You Walk Along Our Lakeshore/WIE LIEBLICH IST DER MAIEN


    @Zappa, I live your thoughts on hymns! One of the things I like most about my tribe’s current hymnal is that there is a short blurb on each hymn at the bottom of the page. For example, at the bottom of the page for Holy, Holy, Holy, one finds: “Much of the imagery of this hymn comes from Revelation 4:2–11, which its author, an Anglican bishop, knew as a reading appointed for Trinity Sunday. The tune, written specifically for this text, reinforces the Trinitarian theme by strong reliance on the D-major triad.”

  • And D is one of the Three Chords permitted to church guitarists, the others being G and A7. Which [CW - music joke] reminds one of the old joke "How does a folk guitarist play in F? He puts the Capo on the 10th fret and plays in G"

    Adaptable to Metal also - "how do AC/DC play in any key other than A?"...
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Did anyone sing the National Anthem at church today? It's the 70th anniversary of Her Majesty's accession (so FatherInCharge keeps reminding us), so it was (AIUI) duly sung at Our Place this morning.

    No, we didn't sing the National Anthem or the Royal one either, but the event was noted in the rector's opening remarks.
    There is a certain irony, too, in the fact that about 50% of the faithful at Our Place on any given Sunday aren't actually British...

    As a matter of interest, what nationalities are they?
  • Indian, Filipino/Filipina, Nigerian, Dutch, Irish, Hungarian, Ukrainian...and in the very recent past (pre-Covid/Brexit :grimace: ) we have had Ghanains, Polish, Latvians, and (for a few weeks) a young sailor from the Cape Verde Islands (Portuguese).

    Two fairly recent baptisms were of the children of an Italian/Chinese couple - the Italian husband identifies as Christian, and occasionally comes to church, but his Chinese wife is a Buddhist.

    We also have British citizens who came originally from Barbados and Trinidad.

    This is ethnically a very mixed inner-city area...so the congregation does reflect the local demographics.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    ISTM that that second line in CHWMC does have a slight touch of the *No King but Jesus!* about it...
    I have been in conversation with some of my Baptist peers and have been surprised at their support for the Monarchy. Historically (i.e, c.1600 etc) they would have been firmly republican.

    That's one of the reasons that explain why Baptists need to rediscover their radical origins. We've become safe and need to be dangerous

    The sermon I preached on Diamond Jubilee Sunday in 2012 did invite the congregation to reflect on the anachronism of considering one family to be "royal" (and the early Nonconformist rejection thereof) and on the fact that God had not wanted Israel to have a king "like all the other nations".

    However this is probably tangential, or even worth a leap into Purgatory all by itself ...
  • Yesterday we sang
    Christ is the King, o friends rejoice- (Gelob’t Sei Gott)
    Thou whose almighty word ( Moscow)
    Brother, sister, let me serve you ( Servant Song)
    And can it be ( Sagina)
    Communion motet- The True and Living Bread by David Blackwell.

    To my surprise, some choir members did not know And can it be.
  • I suspect it's better known in Nonconformist than Anglican circles (assuming that you're in the latter!) Is it in NEH or A&M?
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    It's certainly in A & M (not sure which edition), according to Hymnary, but it's not in the New English Hymnal. I have a copy of the latter, and have just checked.

    It's also in Our Place's default hymnbook (the dreaded Mayhew Complete Anglican Hymns Old And New), which is used in several other local C of E churches.
  • And, in A&M, is it set to "Sagina"? There is No Other Tune to it.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    And can it be is not to be found in A&M (revised; 1950), nor in A&M New Standard (which I understand covers 100 Hymns for Today and its sequel More Hymns for Today). Funny, it's in my head as a thoroughly MOTR hymn, but then I suspect that like Amazing Grace and Blessed Assurance it has drifted thence from its birthplace in the evangelical tradition.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    I wonder which edition of A & M is being referred to here?

    https://hymnary.org/hymn/AM2013/588

    Like @Arethosemyfeet, I remember it as an evangelical and MOTR hymn...
  • I wonder which edition of A & M is being referred to here?

    https://hymnary.org/hymn/AM2013/588

    The very small print at the bottom of each page displayed indicates that it is the most recent edition: Ancient and Modern: hymns and somgs for refreshing worship

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    I wonder which edition of A & M is being referred to here?

    https://hymnary.org/hymn/AM2013/588

    The very small print at the bottom of each page displayed indicates that it is the most recent edition: Ancient and Modern: hymns and somgs for refreshing worship

    Dated 2012/13, looks like.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Yes it was a supplement book
  • Ah thanks - I couldn't read the small print...in fact, I could barely see it.

    Having checked, via a magnifying glass, ISWYM.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    BroJames wrote: »
    Yes it was a supplement book

    Are you sure? At 800+ items it looks like a full set.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Ah. OK. My bad. I’m probably mixing it up with something else.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    Just too awful to relate. Suffice it to say that the horribly repetitive Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord (four verses, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus is; Worthy, worthy, worthy is, Glory, Glory, Glory to...) and This is the Day were involved.

    The vicar must think we're all twelve years old.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    We had a baptism during Mass which was nice.
    Seek ye first the kingdom of God
    Psalm and alleluia
    Take our bread
    Celtic Mass.
    O Lord you search me and you know me (a particular favourite)
    The Kingdom ( a setting of the Beatitudes to a tune that is a very close relative of La Bamba.)
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited February 2022
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Just too awful to relate. Suffice it to say that the horribly repetitive Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord (four verses, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus is; Worthy, worthy, worthy is, Glory, Glory, Glory to...) and This is the Day were involved.

    The vicar must think we're all twelve years old.

    🤢
    I guess s/he really, really, really does.
  • Long before the age of 12 I was cringing at Joy, joy, joy, with joy my heart is ringing.

    The ancient hymn version of Holy, holy, holy is grim too.
    Give me a Sanctus anyday, preferably from Bach’s B Minor Mass.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I went back to Our Place for the first time in months and we sang:

    This is Amazing Grace (Who breaks the power Of sin and darkness...)
    For All You Have Done (My Saviour, Redeemer) - a new one on me (My Saviour, Redeemer, Lifted me from the miry clay, Almighty, Forever, I will never be the same)
    Your Grace is Enough (And I will fall at your feet...)
    What a Beautiful Name It Is
    Lord I Need You - another new one on me (Lord I come, I confess, Bowing here I find my rest, Without You I fall apart, You're the one that guides my heart...)

    I don't remember all this detail, of course; Mr Nen was on the projection and had printed the list out, plus the words of the new ones.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We had:
    To God be the glory
    Fill your hearts with joy and gladness
    I need thee every hour
    Jesus' hands were kind hands (AU CLAIR DE LA LUNE)
    Glorious things of thee are spoken

    I mostly can't remember tunes because, for the first time in a while, these were all hymns we've had in the 18 months or so I've been preparing recordings so I didn't have to spend hours at the laptop wrangling music.
  • Today we had:

    Blessed Jesus, at Your Word/LIEBSTER JESU
    Restore in Us, O God/BAYLOR
    I Want Jesus to Walk with Me (African-American spiritual)
    Christ Is Made the Sure Foundation/WESTMINSTER ABBEY


  • O day of radiant gladness (ES FLOG EIN KLEINS WALDVÖGELEIN)
    All my hope on God is founded (MICHAEL)
    Blest are the pure in heart (FRANCONIA)
    Jesus shall reign where're the sun (DUKE STREET)
  • Different church - fewer hymns:

    Lead us Heavenly Father MANNHEIM

    O Jesus calm me as you calmed the storm - ANIMA CHRISTI

    How we trust and work together- ALL FOR JESUS

  • A new commandment
    Psalm and Alleluia
    Take this moment
    This is my body
    Turning the world upside down (which really should be sung in a proper Cock-er-ny music hall style.)
    We had the mayor and his wife with us .... or as they say hereabouts, the Murr and murress.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We had:
    Be still for the presence of the Lord
    You are before me, God, you are behind (ELLERS, 'cause I didn't recognise the tune in CH4)
    Spirit of God, come dwell within me (LEAVING LISMORE)
    Jesus Christ is waiting (NOEL NOUVELET)
    Blessed assurance
  • Today we had:

    God Is Calling through the Whisper (W ŹLOBIE LEŹY)
    Confitemini Domino/Come and Fill Our Hearts (Berthier, Taizé)
    Breathe on Me, Breath of God (TRENTHAM)
    Together We Serve (SAN ANSELMO)

  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Alan29 wrote: »
    A new commandment
    Psalm and Alleluia
    Take this moment
    This is my body
    Turning the world upside down (which really should be sung in a proper Cock-er-ny music hall style.)
    We had the mayor and his wife with us .... or as they say hereabouts, the Murr and murress.

    And did anyone take the moment to lobby the mayor about the state of the footpaths in Lower Bridge St? Perhaps Be still for the presence of the Lord as sung by Arethosemyfeet's congregation, or Together we serve from Nick Tamen's would have been appropriate with the mayoral presence.
  • Holy Communion, CW
    Eternal Father strong to save
    Lead us heavenly Father, lead us
    Calm me, Lord- which nobody knew, including the choir, as it was a last minute change
    Will your anchor hold?

    During Communion the choir sang
    Bread of heaven on thee we feed, to the lovely Bach chorale Nicht so traurig

    Evensong
    Eternal Father strong to save
    Be thou my vision
    Glory to thee my God this night
    Anthem: In this Place by Will Todd

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Ooo, Calm me Lord as you calmed the storm? I like that one but haven't sung it in ages.
  • It was. A bit frustrating that the evening service had the same readings, intercessions and much the same sermon as the morning. I appreciate that our lovely vicar has five churches but both these services were in the same church, and including the choir at least ten people attended both services.
    Nothing wrong with the content, but ….
  • JapesJapes Shipmate
    Calm me Lord as you calmed the storm - I played during Communion. but as I don't think it's been sung in the current vicar's time, and no-one commented, (they do so freely when they want to) I was probably the only one mentally singing along.

    We also had All Creatures of our God and King which I was accused of choosing for the verse about rushing winds that art so strong, but as I do a termly hymn choosing to minimise my term-time workload I could truthfully say it had been on the list for weeks. I did consider changing it on grounds of likely to be low attendance, but I like it and know it all off by heart so sang as well as played. As it turned out, most of the singers of our congregation turned up so I'm glad I kept it in.
  • Will your anchor hold? is a favourite at Our Place, and usually rounds off the Sea Sunday Mass (in July). Our organist prefers the grand piano for this one, although I'm not sure the piano appreciates it...
  • Kannas an AweylKannas an Aweyl Shipmate Posts: 40
    I stand amazed in the presence
    King of kings, majesty
    Here is love vast as the ocean
    Yes and Amen
    Knowing you Jesus
  • Ooo, Calm me Lord as you calmed the storm? I like that one but haven't sung it in ages.

    May be a different hymn. This one starts:

    O Jesus calm me as you calmed the storm;
    Enfold me in your love, save me from harm

  • Gee D wrote: »
    Alan29 wrote: »
    A new commandment
    Psalm and Alleluia
    Take this moment
    This is my body
    Turning the world upside down (which really should be sung in a proper Cock-er-ny music hall style.)
    We had the mayor and his wife with us .... or as they say hereabouts, the Murr and murress.

    And did anyone take the moment to lobby the mayor about the state of the footpaths in Lower Bridge St? Perhaps Be still for the presence of the Lord as sung by Arethosemyfeet's congregation, or Together we serve from Nick Tamen's would have been appropriate with the mayoral presence.

    Would be a waste of breath .... wrong mayor.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Ooo, Calm me Lord as you calmed the storm? I like that one but haven't sung it in ages.

    May be a different hymn. This one starts:

    O Jesus calm me as you calmed the storm;
    Enfold me in your love, save me from harm

    This is the one I'm thinking of:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NExzcAfw-1w
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Ooo, Calm me Lord as you calmed the storm? I like that one but haven't sung it in ages.

    May be a different hymn. This one starts:

    O Jesus calm me as you calmed the storm;
    Enfold me in your love, save me from harm

    This is the one I'm thinking of:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NExzcAfw-1w

    Different hymn.
  • Praise to the Lord, the Almighty (Lobe den Herren)
    Earth and all stars (Earth and All Stars)
    Love divine, all loves excelling (Blaenwern)
    My song is love unknown (Love Unknown)
    Joyful, joyful we adore thee (Ode to Joy)

    Choral Mass: Ireland in C
    Elgar: Intende voci orationis meae
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