Contemporary evangelicalism. A changing face?

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  • pease wrote: »
    And there are three books of Bell's in the extensive bibliography

    Just a note that those are two different Daniel Bells.

  • MrsBeakyMrsBeaky Shipmate
    edited October 1
    I live in the beautiful Cathedral city of Chichester on the south coast of England. Within the city we have (in addition to the Cathedral) five C of E churches, two of which are evangelical. We also have seven other evangelical churches. Chichester has a population of just under 30k and I have lived here almost 40 years. Three of the evangelical churches have been started during that time. Some of the nine evangelical churches are strongly not charismatic, the rest mildly so. I know people who attend most of them. The newest is an FIEC church started last year. There is regular small scale movement across the charismatic ones (including Anglican) and the worship style would be broadly similar in all the charismatic ones. The other evangelical churches have a stronger take on their doctrinal position and less local transfer- the FIEC church launched itself with a statement about Chichester needing a biblically based church- I admit to wondering what the other eight evangelical churches made of that?!
  • peasepease Tech Admin
    pease wrote: »
    And there are three books of Bell's in the extensive bibliography
    Just a note that those are two different Daniel Bells.
    Ah - I see - the first one is someone else. Thanks.

    Does that happen often in bibliographies?
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    I live in the beautiful Cathedral city of Chichester on the south coast of England. Within the city we have (in addition to the Cathedral) five C of E churches, two of which are evangelical. We also have seven other evangelical churches. Chichester has a population of just under 30k and I have lived here almost 40 years. Three of the evangelical churches have been started during that time. Some of the nine evangelical churches are strongly not charismatic, the rest mildly so. I know people who attend most of them. The newest is an FIEC church started last year. There is regular small scale movement across the charismatic ones (including Anglican) and the worship style would be broadly similar in all the charismatic ones. The other evangelical churches have a stronger take on their doctrinal position and less local transfer- the FIEC church launched itself with a statement about Chichester needing a biblically based church- I admit to wondering what the other eight evangelical churches made of that?!

    Normal behaviour for Sussex tbh, it attracts Christian esoterica like moths to a flame - including evangelical esoterica.
  • Pomona wrote: »
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    I live in the beautiful Cathedral city of Chichester on the south coast of England. Within the city we have (in addition to the Cathedral) five C of E churches, two of which are evangelical. We also have seven other evangelical churches. Chichester has a population of just under 30k and I have lived here almost 40 years. Three of the evangelical churches have been started during that time. Some of the nine evangelical churches are strongly not charismatic, the rest mildly so. I know people who attend most of them. The newest is an FIEC church started last year. There is regular small scale movement across the charismatic ones (including Anglican) and the worship style would be broadly similar in all the charismatic ones. The other evangelical churches have a stronger take on their doctrinal position and less local transfer- the FIEC church launched itself with a statement about Chichester needing a biblically based church- I admit to wondering what the other eight evangelical churches made of that?!

    Normal behaviour for Sussex tbh, it attracts Christian esoterica like moths to a flame - including evangelical esoterica.

    Of course, FIEC-type churches don't ever say that they are excluding Christians who see things differently to themselves, rather they say something about being "happy to share fellowship with all Christians who share our Gospel values".
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    pease wrote: »
    pease wrote: »
    And there are three books of Bell's in the extensive bibliography
    Just a note that those are two different Daniel Bells.
    Ah - I see - the first one is someone else. Thanks.

    Does that happen often in bibliographies?

    I think the academics themselves tend to use an initial or similar to disambiguate if they are in related fields (the latter goes as Daniel M Bell Jr).
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited 12:38PM
    Pomona wrote: »
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    I live in the beautiful Cathedral city of Chichester on the south coast of England. Within the city we have (in addition to the Cathedral) five C of E churches, two of which are evangelical. We also have seven other evangelical churches. Chichester has a population of just under 30k and I have lived here almost 40 years. Three of the evangelical churches have been started during that time. Some of the nine evangelical churches are strongly not charismatic, the rest mildly so. I know people who attend most of them. The newest is an FIEC church started last year. There is regular small scale movement across the charismatic ones (including Anglican) and the worship style would be broadly similar in all the charismatic ones. The other evangelical churches have a stronger take on their doctrinal position and less local transfer- the FIEC church launched itself with a statement about Chichester needing a biblically based church- I admit to wondering what the other eight evangelical churches made of that?!

    Normal behaviour for Sussex tbh, it attracts Christian esoterica like moths to a flame - including evangelical esoterica.

    Of course, FIEC-type churches don't ever say that they are excluding Christians who see things differently to themselves, rather they say something about being "happy to share fellowship with all Christians who share our Gospel values".

    Well, logically all P is Q doesn't imply that non P cannot be Q, but we all know what they mean when they specify P.

    IME the welcome is actually on a sliding scale, inversely proportional to the product of how much you differ from them and how much you talk about it.

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