What did you sing at church today?

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  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    KarlLB wrote: »
    If that's the case, then I'm weird too - I can't stand the thing.

    A certain Ken, late of this parish, positively hated it on some theological grounds I never really grasped.

    Good wedding hymn, obviously ;)

    He said it was Unitarian rather than Christian. Leo didn’t like it either for the same reason.
  • The author was actually Quaker.
  • First Sunday in Lent - Litany and High Mass

    (No entrance hymn due to the Great Litany in procession)
    Now let us all with one accord (Bourbon)
    Forty days and forty nights (Aus der Tiefe rufe ich)
    O love, how deep, how broad, how high (Deus tuorum militum)

    Choral:
    William Walton: Missa brevis (1966)
    B.E. Boykin: Ave Maria (2021)
    Kathryn Rose: Angelis suis (2018)
  • Oblatus wrote: »
    O love, how deep, how broad, how high (Deus tuorum militum)
    I nearly chose that for Sunday although I would have sung it to the German chorale "Eisenach". Different tradition, I think.

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    It can be sung to Deo Gracias, otherwise known as the Agincourt Song. Personally, I'd want to sing it to Puer Nobis Nascitur, but possibly not during Lent! :innocent:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Bit of a mixed bag at St Pete's today:

    Immortal, invisible - St Denio
    Christ, whose glory fills the skies - Ratisbon
    From heav'n you came, helpless babe - The Servant King
    Be still, for the presence of the Lord - Be Still
    To God be the glory - To God be the Glory*

    * That's almost the only thing I've ever been paid to sing: we did it for a BBC Songs of Praise in Orkney in 1980 and I was asked to sing the middle verse as a solo. As I recall, I was paid £10 for my efforts, and then got a further £20 when it was repeated on Thora Hird's Favourite Hymns (or whatever it was called). :mrgreen:
  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    At our 9 o'clock service today:

    All People That on Earth Do Dwell / Old Hundredth
    Dear Lord and Father of Mankind / Repton
    The Church's One Foundation / Aurelia
    There is a hope that burns within my heart / There is a hope (Townend & Edwards)
    Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven / Lauda Anima
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Inter alia we sang two Bernadette Farrell hymns
    O Lord you search me and you know me at communion, and
    Christ be our light at the end.
    As the gospel was the Transfiguration I feared we might have had Shine, Jesus shine, but we were spared.
  • God is sometimes merciful...
    :wink:
  • Scout and Guide Parade Service.

    “The God of Abraham praise” (4 verses - Leoni).

    “Gloria, gloria” (Mike Anderson/Kevin Mayhew).

    “The journey of life” (Follow my leader).

    “To Abraham and Sarah” (Mountain Christians).

    “Be bold, be strong” (Morris Chapman).

    “Guide me, O thou great Jehovah” (Cwm Rhondda). I said: Yes, this is cheesy. I’ve chosen it because it’s a good hymn which fits our theme, because we all know it, because it was St David’s Day last Wednesday - and because the Welsh rugby team need all the support they can get!"

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We had:
    There's a wideness in God's mercy (CROSS OF JESUS)
    I to the hills will lift mine eyes (FRENCH)
    The bright wind is blowing (THE BARD OF ARMAGH, because the tune written for the words had weird rhythms and there are limits to what I'll put myself and the congregation through)
    O God you search me and you know me
    Ye that know the Lord is gracious (ABBOT'S LEIGH)

    I'm not sure whether the "bright wind" is a maladroit description or a clever allusion to the Spirit as both breath and tongues of fire.
  • Scout and Guide Parade Service.

    “The God of Abraham praise” (4 verses - Leoni).

    “Gloria, gloria” (Mike Anderson/Kevin Mayhew).

    “The journey of life” (Follow my leader).

    “To Abraham and Sarah” (Mountain Christians).

    “Be bold, be strong” (Morris Chapman).

    “Guide me, O thou great Jehovah” (Cwm Rhondda). I said: Yes, this is cheesy. I’ve chosen it because it’s a good hymn which fits our theme, because we all know it, because it was St David’s Day last Wednesday - and because the Welsh rugby team need all the support they can get!"

    You sang a version of the Gloria in LENT??

    Is Outrage!

    *swoons*

    (Mind you, I like that setting, though Our Place has never AFAIK used it.
    Too much clapping involved, I suspect).
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited March 2023
    Not only did we include a Gloria (which in fact we rarely do), but we had Flowers in church (which we always do, except perhaps on Good Friday). And yes, it was the one with the clapping.

    We used to include one or two hymns from the Bernadette Farrell & Co stable, but they're not in our books and the amount they now charge for copyright is ridiculous!
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited March 2023
    Flahrs ez orl roight, but it's Taters (or Tarnups) wot feeds yer...

    We have a number of Farrell items in our default hymnbook, so copyright isn't a problem, fortunately.
  • Someone said Bernadette Farrell was poorly a little while ago: do we know how she is now?
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Someone said Bernadette Farrell was poorly a little while ago: do we know how she is now?

    She had a brain tumour removed. I have gently enquired through mutual friends, but privacy is being guarded. Understandable.
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Ah, got it. Thanks.

    To be honest, I’ve never particularly cared for “Dear Lord and Father of Mankind.” And I’m talking about the text, not the tune(s). I know lots of folks love it, but it’s never really done anything for me. Just another aspect of my weirdness, I guess.

    You probably don't like it because when they turned the original poem,The Brewing of Soma, into a hymn, they left some of the best verses out. Try singing the following to the tune and see how it sounds:

    Some fever of the blood and brain,
    Some self-exalting spell,
    The scourger's keen delight of pain,
    the Dervish dance, the Orphic strain,
    The wild-haired Bacchant's yell, -

    The desert's hair-grown hermit sunk
    The saner brute below;
    The naked Santon, haschish-drunk,
    The cloister madness of the monk,
    The fakir's torture show!

    And yet the past comes round again,
    And new doth old fulfill;
    In sensual transports wild as vain
    We brew in many a Christian fane
    The heathen Soma still!

    It's a Quaker poem that critiques the use of stimulants and rituals to achieve spiritual ecstasy.

    http://www.qhpress.org/quakerpages/qwhp/soma.htm

  • Yes, I’m familiar with the history of the hymn. But whether the original complete text or just the verses we have as the hymn, it’s not one that does much for me, I’m afraid.

  • Lent 2
    Love Divine, Hyfrydol
    Love will be our Lenten calling, Picardy
    O Lord my God, when I in awesome wonder, O Store Gud
    Be thou my vision, Slane

    Choral
    Introit: Spirit of God Unseen as the Wind, arr. David Iliff
    Anthem: God So Loved the World, by John Stainer
    Communion: We Will Still Remember, by Tim Brace

  • OblatusOblatus Shipmate
    Second Sunday in Lent

    The God of Abraham praise (Leoni)
    When Christ was lifted from the earth (St. Botolph)
    My faith looks up to thee (Christopher)
    Lift high the cross, the love of Christ proclaim (Crucifer)

    Choral:
    Byrd: Mass for four voices
    B.E. Boykin: John 3:16 (2014)
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Lent 2
    New every morning is the love ( Melcombe)
    Be thou my vision (Slane)
    Will you come and follow me? ( Kelvin Grove)
    To God be the glory

    Mass of St Thomas, with the Kyries not the Gloria
    Litany for Lent Mode V

    This afternoon I was privileged to attend a concert of music for Lent, including such delights as
    O nata lux- Tallis
    Vigilate - Byrd
    Drop drop slow tears- Gibbons
    Crucifixus - Lotti
    Sung by eight voices.
  • As part of our Communion we sang a version of the Sanctus (a first for us I think, to sing it) which was set to the tune of The Ash Grove ... just that we weren't given any clues that this was to be the tune, and the organist's introduction was a bit vague, so it took us a while to realise what tune we were supposed to be singing... https://youtu.be/1wPCcONkLCo?t=2848
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Yes. I’ve heard better introductions.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    Lent 2
    Love Divine, Hyfrydol
    Love will be our Lenten calling, Picardy
    O Lord my God, when I in awesome wonder, O Store Gud
    Be thou my vision, Slane

    Choral
    Introit: Spirit of God Unseen as the Wind, arr. David Iliff
    Anthem: God So Loved the World, by John Stainer
    Communion: We Will Still Remember, by Tim Brace

    I’ve never sung Love Divine to Hyfrodol, but I can se it would work.
  • As part of our Communion we sang a version of the Sanctus (a first for us I think, to sing it) which was set to the tune of The Ash Grove

    I don't know that but I like it. Just don't choose "Sent forth with God's blessing" to conclude a service which includes it (same tune!)
  • Did not sing but attended Mass @ St-Pat’s-in-the-west yesterday:

    Processional: the God of Abram praise ( Leoni) Lenten prose ( chant) Byrd 4 ( Kyrie and Agnus Dei) motet Christus Jesu splendor ( Marenzio), it being Transfiguration & all; Communion Tis good Lord to be here ( Franconia). Very fine singing by mixed choir; hymns sung a capella. Cathedral packed (500 seated) and well worth the 25 km schlep.
  • Spike wrote: »
    I’ve never sung Love Divine to Hyfrodol, but I can se it would work.
    That’s the standard tune for “Love Divine” in my tribe, and, I think, in a number of American denominations. BEECHER would be the other tune typically encountered in the States.

  • Gill HGill H Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    If that's the case, then I'm weird too - I can't stand the thing.

    A certain Ken, late of this parish, positively hated it on some theological grounds I never really grasped.

    Good wedding hymn, obviously ;)

    I can’t hear that hymn without thinking of Ken and imagining the look on his face. Still miss him.
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Spike wrote: »
    I’ve never sung Love Divine to Hyfrodol, but I can se it would work.
    That’s the standard tune for “Love Divine” in my tribe, and, I think, in a number of American denominations. BEECHER would be the other tune typically encountered in the States.
    "Blaenwern" would, I think, be most common in Britain, with "Hyfrydol" used for "Alleluia, sing to Jesus" (among others).
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Spike wrote: »
    I’ve never sung Love Divine to Hyfrodol, but I can se it would work.
    That’s the standard tune for “Love Divine” in my tribe, and, I think, in a number of American denominations. BEECHER would be the other tune typically encountered in the States.
    "Blaenwern" would, I think, be most common in Britain, with "Hyfrydol" used for "Alleluia, sing to Jesus" (among others).
    As far as I can tell, BLAENWERN is unknown here; I haven’t been able to find it in an American hymnal, and I think watching the wedding of the (now) Prince and Princess of Wales was the first time I’d ever heard it. (I was in my early 50s at the time.)

    In my tribe, HYFRYDOL is used for “Love Divine,” “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” and “Alleluia! Sing to Jesus.”

  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited March 2023
    I'd sing “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” to "Stuttgart" - twice as many verses, of course!

    "Love divine" is sometimes sung to the tune of that name by Stainer ... a bit dreary IMO.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    I'd sing “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” to "Stuttgart" - twice as many verses, of course!

    "Love divine" is sometimes sung to the tune of that name by Stainer ... a bit dreary IMO.

    Yes. Stainer is awful. It is the standard tune for Love Divine in our hymnal.
  • I'd sing “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” to "Stuttgart" - twice as many verses, of course!
    I’ve never been a fan of STUTTGART, I’m afraid. It always seemed a bit plodding to me.

    The other tune I associate with “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” is JEFFERSON, which I like a lot.

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    edited March 2023
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I'd sing “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” to "Stuttgart" - twice as many verses, of course!
    I’ve never been a fan of STUTTGART, I’m afraid. It always seemed a bit plodding to me.

    It needs a bit of pace, I think, 120+.
  • rhubarbrhubarb Shipmate



    Yes. Stainer is awful. It is the standard tune for Love Divine in our hymnal. [/quote]

    I actually like Stainer's tune and dislike Hyfrydol and Blaenwern as they always sound seasick (I'm a hopeless sailor)
  • Here’s a great rendition of Jefferson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADiux2txiU
  • Yes! I almost linked to a Sacred Harp version (though I was going to link to this one.)

    The Sacred Harp tunes—whether in their original form or “smoothed out” a little, like the version of JEFFERSON I linked to earlier—are hard to beat. I find it interesting that shape note singing seems to have such a following in Ireland. At least judging from YouTube, that seems to be the case.

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Here’s a great rendition of Jefferson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADiux2txiU

    Wow! This is a whole tradition I have not come across. Its moving to hear such full throated singing. Just going for it!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited March 2023
    I am so envious of those of you who are getting to sing (or even just listen to) the Byrd 4-part Mass. Even without the Gloria (as is right and proper at the moment), it's absolutely sublime. :heart:
  • Come now - you have a new Rector, who may well be open to suggestions as to liturgical music...
  • Learned it 20-odd years ago as a (barely competent) alto at St Frank’s under the direction of Madame la Directrice. Still in in brain to my surprise. If you have 2 competent sightreaders per part it is doable. Good luck!
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I am so envious of those of you who are getting to sing (or even just listen to) the Byrd 4-part Mass. Even without the Gloria (as is right and proper at the moment), it's absolutely sublime. :heart:

    It most certainly is. The avant-garde composer Peter Maxwell Davis picked as the one disc he would take to his Desert Island on the BBC radio 4 programme. The Agnus Dei is almost too beautiful.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Sojourner wrote: »
    Learned it 20-odd years ago as a (barely competent) alto at St Frank’s under the direction of Madame la Directrice. Still in in brain to my surprise. If you have 2 competent sightreaders per part it is doable. Good luck!
    Sojourner wrote: »
    Learned it 20-odd years ago as a (barely competent) alto at St Frank’s under the direction of Madame la Directrice. Still in in brain to my surprise. If you have 2 competent sightreaders per part it is doable. Good luck!

    I'm trying to think of anywhere I've been that could reliably post 2 competent sightreaders, nevermind 2 per part.
  • OblatusOblatus Shipmate
    Spike wrote: »

    I’ve never sung Love Divine to Hyfrodol, but I can se it would work.

    That's the tune we're stuck with in The Hymnal 1982 (Episcopal USA), but in our parish, Blaenwern has made several appearances.
  • Alan29 wrote: »
    Here’s a great rendition of Jefferson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADiux2txiU

    Wow! This is a whole tradition I have not come across. Its moving to hear such full throated singing. Just going for it!
    To bring it back around to “Love Divine,” try this shape note version. Full-throated going for it indeed.

  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited March 2023
    Indeed, a tune I don't know. I've only heard this type of singing once "live" - rather oddly, in the foyer of London's Queen Elizabeth Hall!
  • angloidangloid Shipmate
    I don't know what was sung at Our Place, but Madam Sacristan will have insisted that the Mass at least begin with the mournful dirge of Forty Days And Forty Nights...
    :disappointed:

    Sorry I'm late catching up with this, but at my last place we had a tradition of singing the last two verses of 40 days to a different tune. It made a big difference to the feel of it. I'm not an expert on hymn tunes but the first one was Aus Der Tiefe; I can't remember the other but it was much more cheerful.
  • Yes, AUS DER TIEFE (“Out of the depths”) is the standard tune for “Forty Days and Forty Nights.” As the name implies, it’s not meant up be a cheery tune.

  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited March 2023
    I wonder if the other tune was "Buckland" - known to me as "Thank you for the world so sweet".
  • angloidangloid Shipmate
    I wonder if the other tune was "Buckland" - known to me as "Thank you for the world so sweet".

    Maybe.
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