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  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Yes, we knew that...
    As we knew everything in your post. :wink:


    What? That soccer is football?

    😉
    Yes, or more precisely, that soccer is one of a number of sports within the broader category of “football.” We are well aware of that, and that wasn’t the point.

    The post to which @Ruth responded was written as though Americans were speaking:
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    Does any other shipmate think Trump is now doomed? He can mess with the economy, the constitution, insult other countries, but .... DONT FUCK WITH OUR FOOTBALL!!!
    Given that it was written as though Americans were speaking, “football” was incorrect. An American saying “DONT FUCK WITH OUR FOOTBALL” would mean something other than the sport being played in the World Cup.

  • I sometimes joke that I'm in exile from South Wales because I can't sing and can't play rugby.

    Conversely, I can sing and play(ed) rugby, which may or may not be indicative of my Welsh Methodist forebears. My grandfather's grandfather was a bard, and his chair is in the possession of my eldest uncle, but I eye it covetously as the eldest man of my generation.

    Cool. I am envious.

    @Nick Tamen - may I draw your attention to the winking emoji that accompanied my comment. You deployed one too.

    Winking emojis generally indicate that a comment isn't to be taken seriously. I took yours that way.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    @Nick Tamen: Imagine what would happen if Trump somehow messed up something for the Super Bowl. The many tiny minds that would explode!
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited July 7
    @Nick Tamen - may I draw your attention to the winking emoji that accompanied my comment. You deployed one too.
    Yes, but your winking emoji was followed by explanation. You know what they say about having to explain a joke.

    Ruth wrote: »
    @Nick Tamen: Imagine what would happen if Trump somehow messed up something for the Super Bowl. The many tiny minds that would explode!
    Heh! They would indeed.

    Though Trump would likely blame whatever went wrong on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.

  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Well, there is the US Women's National Team. They like to show up the men's team.
  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    @Gamma Gamaliel It's called the World Series because it was named after the, now long defunct, newspaper that first sponsored it, the New York World.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    Trump is now bragging about how he's supposedly gotten Wal-Mart to lower their prices, including 15% on ground beef, and a few items of summer junk-food.

    This has been one of my biggest worries going into the midterms, that combined with lower gas prices, Trump can use gimmicky interventionism to portray himself as the man directly putting money back into everybody's pocket.

    I am with you @stetson. Ho Hum.

    I do not see anything that suggest this is permanent.

    250 items will have reduced prices. 250? Where did they get that number? I wonder.

    Me thinks even with the markdowns Walmart will be making money.

    Yeah, the 250 number was explicitly chosen as patriotic marketing.

    And you could very well be right, and it's not a large enough bloc of goods to pierce through negative perceptions about the cost of living. And, contrary to the neo-menckenian stereotypes of typical flyover voters, there are probably enough of them who will think "Well, chips and soda are great, but what about the stuff I actually want to feed my kids?" to somewhat mute the applause among bargain-hungry shoppers.

    Also, based on my regular but superficial attention to the numbers, after the initial plummet, it hasn't been that easy keeping the West Texas Intermediate and Brent in the red for more than a few days, and the prices seem to be hovering around 70 bucks a barrel in either direction. But that could still be a wild card.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    NicoleMR wrote: »
    @Gamma Gamaliel It's called the World Series because it was named after the, now long defunct, newspaper that first sponsored it, the New York World.

    This is an urban legend.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    NicoleMR wrote: »
    @Gamma Gamaliel It's called the World Series because it was named after the, now long defunct, newspaper that first sponsored it, the New York World.

    This is an urban legend.

    I'm sure Snopes is right about that.

    Gotta say, though, that has to be one of the most milktoast urban legends I've ever heard. Usually, ULs improve upon the real story in terms of excitement, novelty etc, but that newspaper-related explanation is about as banal as the real reason.

    I suspect Snopes is correct that the fake explanation emerged just because people thought "World Series" sounded weird since the teams are almost all American, as opposed to, say, the original fabulist thought it was a really cool story.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    And, wow. Early 2000s Snopes by David Mikkelson himself. Talk about a blast of nostalgia.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    NicoleMR wrote: »
    @Gamma Gamaliel It's called the World Series because it was named after the, now long defunct, newspaper that first sponsored it, the New York World.

    This is an urban legend.

    Well, I for one would like to see an actual world series featuring the best teams from around the globe.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Also, based on my regular but superficial attention to the numbers, after the initial plummet, it hasn't been that easy keeping the West Texas Intermediate and Brent in the red for more than a few days, and the prices seem to be hovering around 70 bucks a barrel in either direction. But that could still be a wild card.

    Coincidentally, I just found out about the new Freedom Fuel gas stations in Pennsylvania. As far as I can make out, they're Sunocos that have temporarily rebranded and agreed to sell gas at below the national average, while giving the credit to you-know-who. But sharper observers have noted that the prices are still higher than what they were at the same stations before the Iran debacle got going.

    The main ambiguity seems to be how the stations are able to sell gas at a lower price, with unofficial claims that they're getting subsidized.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    A nice day to be a pedant. It is Association Football, sometimes abbreviated to soccer.
    What I found more interesting was finding out why American football was called football in the first place. If Wikipedia is to be believed (and if I am reading it correctly--not necessarily a given) it is because the game developed from the football that we now call soccer. They decided to add some rugby rules to soccer and, instead of calling it some form of rugby, they just decided to continue to call it "football."

    But back to Trump. Any chance that FIFA will bestow on him the inaugural FIFA Award for Ethics & Integrity?
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited July 8
    I see that the Great Statesman is throwing tantrums at the NATO summit - the Iranian leadership is 'scum', his NATO allies are faithless, he must have Greenland, and he doesn't want to trade with Spain any more, so there, nyah, nyah, nyah, yah boo sucks...

    I haven't read any further, but no doubt he will be claiming Great And Total Victory over Iran for the umpteenth time, whilst the war continues...

    You really couldn't make it up.
  • ETA:

    He's now threatening to hit Iran 'very hard' tonight.

    Hopefully, he'll chicken out yet again, but what a tedious waste of space and oxygen he is.
  • @Nick Tamen - I was doing a both/and ... 😉

    Mel Brooks often explains his jokes. Which is a shame.

    On the naming of American football, rugby is called 'Rugby Football.'

    I'm sure many rugby fans would be annoyed if it were called 'American Rugby.' Some people would be annoyed if it were called 'American' anything.

    Perhaps it's another both/and thing. Football and Rugby at the same time ...

    @Gramps49 I must admit I have never heard of baseball being played here in the UK nor anywhere else other than the US, but I'm sure there must be some played somewhere.
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    . Japan.
  • . Japan.

    Referring, I guess, to his blunders at the NATO summit - he mentioned 'The Islamic Republic Of Japan' (which will be news in Tokyo), and also invited reporters to ask questions of 'President Putin' who was sitting nearby, disguised as Volodymr Zelenskyy...

    Mr Zelenskyy simply smiled politely, and wearily.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Baseball is played in the United Kingdom and I believe it was played extensively in South Wales. I think the infield may have been different with the home base to score in a different place to be batters plate.
    BTW, Derby County played at “Baseball Ground” for many years and it was used by the professional football club (which won the Football League in 1973) and a baseball team officially titled Derby Baseball Club, but there was endless confusion.
    I think baseball was in its heyday here before the First World War.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    edited July 8
    As it so happens, the Prague Baseball Week tournament is being played this week featuring teams from the Czech Republic, Germany, Chinese Taipei, Netherlands, Croatia, Switzerland, Belgium and Slovakia.

    And that doesn't touch the Latin American and South American leagues. Or the Australian Baseball League....so, yeah, it is played a lot of places other than the US.
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    . Japan.

    Referring, I guess, to his blunders at the NATO summit - he mentioned 'The Islamic Republic Of Japan' (which will be news in Tokyo), and also invited reporters to ask questions of 'President Putin' who was sitting nearby, disguised as Volodymr Zelenskyy...

    Mr Zelenskyy simply smiled politely, and wearily.

    No, referring to a place outside the US that plays baseball. Sorry.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    I see that the Great Statesman is throwing tantrums at the NATO summit - the Iranian leadership is 'scum', his NATO allies are faithless, he must have Greenland, and he doesn't want to trade with Spain any more, so there, nyah, nyah, nyah, yah boo sucks...

    At this point, I think he's just replaying his Greatest Hits, such as they are, for the domestic fanboys back home.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Wherever there have been American servicemen, baseball associations have sprang up--even in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam. Kind of like a cancer, it is. (Can also find Cricket there too).
  • . Japan.

    Referring, I guess, to his blunders at the NATO summit - he mentioned 'The Islamic Republic Of Japan' (which will be news in Tokyo), and also invited reporters to ask questions of 'President Putin' who was sitting nearby, disguised as Volodymr Zelenskyy...

    Mr Zelenskyy simply smiled politely, and wearily.

    No, referring to a place outside the US that plays baseball. Sorry.

    No need to apologise! It was I who got confused...
  • Just read on the BBC that Erdogan has made a gift of a hand gun with live ammunition to each NATO leader. Starmer has turned his in to the UK embassy to be decommissioned, it being illegal for him to import it to the UK. I wonder what trump will do with his? Melania probably already has one. But Hegseth always wants more guns, so maybe he'll get it.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    It's such a shame that Trump has spoilt the 250th so badly out of his typical greed and selfishness - I know the bicentennial in 1976 was a really celebratory occasion. I feel very sorry for the Americans who have to suffer under Trump despite never voting for him.
  • I was a bit cranky, as I remember the bicentennial and was looking forward to this anniversary (before I knew That Person would be in charge). I won't see another, but at least my comfort is, he won't ruin another...
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    And, wow. Early 2000s Snopes by David Mikkelson himself. Talk about a blast of nostalgia.

    I have mixed feelings about something from the early 2000's being nostalgic.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    NicoleMR wrote: »
    @Gamma Gamaliel It's called the World Series because it was named after the, now long defunct, newspaper that first sponsored it, the New York World.

    This is an urban legend.

    Well, I for one would like to see an actual world series featuring the best teams from around the globe.

    Problem is that all the best have come here.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    And, wow. Early 2000s Snopes by David Mikkelson himself. Talk about a blast of nostalgia.

    I have mixed feelings about something from the early 2000's being nostalgic.

    Me too. Though relative to a lotta people my age, I came to the internet quite late(summer 2001), so I kinda think of Snopes as part of my formative impressions.

    Plus, if Happy Days and Grease were considered nostalgic in the mid to late 1970s(and I can say with assurance that they were)...
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Did you hear the Islamic Republic of Japan has fired missiles in the Gulf of Hormuz? Straight from the mouth of the Orange one. If he said it, must be true.

    If this man was any other family's patriarch, they would be putting him in a secure G ward--that is a ward for people with dementia.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    edited 5:39AM
    mousethief wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »

    (See previous post)
    Well, I for one would like to see an actual world series featuring the best teams from around the globe.

    Problem is that all the best have come here.

    I thought the World Classic had already been mentioned.

    Trump must be pissed off about the winners.


  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    sionisais wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    (See previous post)
    Well, I for one would like to see an actual world series featuring the best teams from around the globe.

    Problem is that all the best have come here.

    I thought the World Classic had already been mentioned.

    Trump must be pissed off about the winners.

    I'm pretty sure I've mentioned the Baseball World Classic recently. I watched it and enjoyed it, but the format doesn't suit the game of baseball. The group play part is fine, I guess, but having one-and-done games after that is bad. There should be a real series at every level after group play, three or five games each, and five or seven for the championship, preferably seven. I know they won't do this for logistical reasons -- it just takes too long -- but you really find out how what teams can do and which is truly better through a series of games, not just one.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    edited 6:33PM
    That is why I watch the MLB playoffs, even when the Pirates aren’t there, which is usually so. Heck, they hardly ever get televised in the U.K.
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