Can Count Binface Save us from Farage?

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  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    Robertus L wrote: »
    Lady Hermon's title was a courtesy title, because her husband ( a former cheif constable of Northern Ireland) was knighted. Knighthoods/ damehoods are not titles of nobility, nor are baronets, so they don't have to be renounced. A number of sitting MPs have such titles,

    For example - Sir Keir Starmer!
    In fact, since all hereditary peers are now excluded from the House of Lords, I think nobody can actually renounce a title for the purposeof enteringthe House of Commons, there's no mechanism to renounce life peerages

    So I assume that hereditary peers can now stand for election to the House of Commons? Also, it seems wrong that life peerages cannot be renounced - why not? If you can renounce a hereditary title, why not a life one?
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Robertus L wrote: »
    Lady Hermon's title was a courtesy title, because her husband ( a former cheif constable of Northern Ireland) was knighted. Knighthoods/ damehoods are not titles of nobility, nor are baronets, so they don't have to be renounced. A number of sitting MPs have such titles,

    For example - Sir Keir Starmer!
    In fact, since all hereditary peers are now excluded from the House of Lords, I think nobody can actually renounce a title for the purposeof enteringthe House of Commons, there's no mechanism to renounce life peerages

    So I assume that hereditary peers can now stand for election to the House of Commons? Also, it seems wrong that life peerages cannot be renounced - why not? If you can renounce a hereditary title, why not a life one?

    Because the hereditary title was gained involuntarily; a life peerage had to be accepted in the first place.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    If Count Binface won it could be a big boon for the town of Clacton.

    The world's media would descend on them, tourists would flock there, local businesses would be able to dine out on this for many years to come. It could be a powerful move.

    Not so much for the country, sadly Farage would be back in some way - like a bad smell.
  • Be careful what you wish for - bear in mind that the Count is, in fact, an alien, and may well be planning World Domination.

    From his website:

    I’m an intergalactic space warrior and leader of the Recyclons from planet Sigma IX.

    I like his motto Make Earth Great Again...

    It's all a bit silly, I know, but Farage will always be remembered for being opposed by a Bin, just as Liz Truss is remembered for being less resilient than a Lettuce.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    A colourful history of novelty political candidates taking on the elite - Big Issue.
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  • Re. whether or not he will wear his bin in Parliament: I saw a YouTube video of Binface being interviewed by Andrew Marr, including an exchange like this:

    Marr: "I have the House of Commons rules in front of me and they are quite clear - you cannot sit in the House with a face covering."
    Binface: "And the House of Commons rules are quite clear about what you can and can't do with donations."

    I hope he keeps saying things like that.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Re. whether or not he will wear his bin in Parliament: I saw a YouTube video of Binface being interviewed by Andrew Marr, including an exchange like this:

    Marr: "I have the House of Commons rules in front of me and they are quite clear - you cannot sit in the House with a face covering."
    Binface: "And the House of Commons rules are quite clear about what you can and can't do with donations."

    I hope he keeps saying things like that.

    Farage took about 48% of the vote at the 2024 general election and combined with the Conservatives the political right won three quarters of the vote. If Farage gets less than that in the by-election then it cannot be regarded as the endorsement he desires.



  • Robertus LRobertus L Shipmate
    Robertus L wrote: »
    Lady Hermon's title was a courtesy title, because her husband ( a former cheif constable of Northern Ireland) was knighted. Knighthoods/ damehoods are not titles of nobility, nor are baronets, so they don't have to be renounced. A number of sitting MPs have such titles,

    For example - Sir Keir Starmer!
    In fact, since all hereditary peers are now excluded from the House of Lords, I think nobody can actually renounce a title for the purposeof enteringthe House of Commons, there's no mechanism to renounce life peerages

    So I assume that hereditary peers can now stand for election to the House of Commons? Also, it seems wrong that life peerages cannot be renounced - why not? If you can renounce a hereditary title, why not a life one?

    I suspect it's an oversight rather than deliberate, because even if you knowingly accept a life peerage, it seems wrong in principle that you should be eternally barred from standing as an MP. Those disbared from Parliament for other reasons, such as criminal convictions can stand once the sentence is served, similarly those who accept a Crown appointment can stand once they've resigned office, hence the current by-election.

    It seems likely, if not inevitable, that in the future a life peer will want to renounce their peerage, and the law will be ammended, as it was when hereditary peers decided they'd rather be MPs, or just leave Parliament entirely. Some of those former hereditaries went on to have important careers in the Commons; Tony Benn, former Viscount Stansgate, Quentin Hogg, former Viscount Hailsham and of course Alec Douglas-Home, former Earl Home ( but pronounced ' hume'). Douglas-Home outdid even Andy Burnham by becoming Prime Minister before becoming an MP - he was appointed while still a peer, renounced the peerage and then stood in a conviently engineered by-election, but was Prime Minister for brief period while not being a member of either House
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited 1:31PM
    Re. whether or not he will wear his bin in Parliament: I saw a YouTube video of Binface being interviewed by Andrew Marr, including an exchange like this:

    Marr: "I have the House of Commons rules in front of me and they are quite clear - you cannot sit in the House with a face covering."
    Binface: "And the House of Commons rules are quite clear about what you can and can't do with donations."

    Snappy comeback, but it's not gonna make a difference as to how the Speaker rules on his right to sit in parliament with a bin over his head.
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