Sunday prohibitions

PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
Arising from the superstitions thread, what Sunday prohibitions existed in your childhood?
What made you ditch them?
Do any still exist today?

My parents were very strict about what was/ what wasn’t permitted on Sundays. No toys, games, but we were allowed crayoning books ( not paints) books and jigsaw puzzles. No outdoor play.
No sewing or knitting.
We didn’t have TV so that wasn’t an issue.

The worst day was when Christmas Day fell on a Sunday and we weren’t allowed to play with certain new toys, whilst the aforementioned crayoning books were allowed.
Eventually most of our presents turned out to be the sort that were permitted on Sundays anyway. Probably easier for two girls than boys. We acquired quite a collection of Bible-based games.

My parents amended their thinking later in life and I certainly changed my views once I left home.

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  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We avoided shopping on a Sunday and I've generally avoided paid work (though I have relaxed that at need). I still don't shop on a Sunday if I can possibly avoid it and prefer not to put others in the position of having to work if there's a choice.
  • We didn't have a Sunday newspaper, and I've continued that habit my whole life.
  • SipechSipech Shipmate
    Signaller wrote: »
    We didn't have a Sunday newspaper, and I've continued that habit my whole life.
    My old headmaster wouldn't buy the Monday newspaper, for the reason that the work which went into it was all done on a Sunday.
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    I do try to avoid shopping on Sundays, though as I live almost opposite an Aldi I pop over the road if I have run out of something. Recently, when there was no service at my church one Sunday I went to an out of town store. First time ever. My daughter was shocked!

    When I went away to university and was trying to decide for myself, I heard a sermon on the subject of the Sabbath v Lord’s Day. By way of example the vicar said that his wife did not sew or knit on Sundays as she did a lot of that on weekdays, so she wrote letters. For him, letter writing was definitely work: on the other hand, he liked to do a bit of weaving if he had a spare hour on a Sunday. This was when I realised that there wasn’t a set list of prohibited activities for all Christians on Sundays ( such was my upbringing).
  • The Tony Hancock episode about Sunday afternoons gives a fair idea of how stultifying they could be in middle-class households in the 1950s. What was frowned on? Everything! Especially if it might involve the slightest enjoyment.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    If ever I need to conjure an image of ultimate dreariness I think of a an inner city playground in 1950s Belfast on a wet Sunday. The roundabout is padlocked, the swings in locked bunches, the slides have metal bars at intervals down their entire length.

    My parents’ attitude is totally inconsistent. Sometimes we are dragooned to Sunday School, sometimes we go for a drive, or go visiting.
  • I do not remember Sunday strictures, we went to church, had Sunday Lunch went to Sunday School and the family had a cosy time with storytelling in the evening. TV was allowed, and we watched the children's story that was on, on a Sunday evening with Mum at some stage. My parents were probably quite strict Sabbatarians; they just chose to arrange the day so they did not have a battle. They would buy us ice cream from a van if we went out for a ride on a Sunday afternoon, but not go to a shop, and we never questioned it. Rides out in the car were supposed to be fun. I recall them being boring and nearly always ending in my sister and me fighting because we were bored.

    I still do not pay for something on a Sunday, and try to limit the work I expect others to do on a Sunday. However, I focus on positive things I do do, so time for prayer, bible study, that lie in I want etc.
  • When we moved to Ontario in the late 80s there was no Sunday shopping, and truck drivers could be fined $20 for being on the road. Sunday is almost as busy as any other day now. On the other hand, it's not that long since I was berated by a member of the congregation for nipping out to buy extra milk for the after-church coffee hour - I couldn't win that one either way.
  • We explored the island of Raasay (off Skye) in around 2010 and there was still a sign up on the children's play area saying These Swings Are Not to be Used on the Sabbath.
  • Not family, but local government rules when I was a child were that you could not buy anything; you had to cook from the store. Bread and milk, yes; meat, no. You could not have a drink in a restaurant on Sunday. These rules are long gone.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    March Hare wrote: »
    We explored the island of Raasay (off Skye) in around 2010 and there was still a sign up on the children's play area saying These Swings Are Not to be Used on the Sabbath.

    I think they still lock the play areas in Lewis & Harris, and all council leisure facilities are closed which is a source of disquiet as this extends to South Uist and Barra where most folk are RC.
  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    When I moved to Florida from Pennsylvania over fifty years ago, I was very surprised to find out that the main grocery chain here was closed on Sundays! We didn't have that in PA. Sundays became regular shopping days at the MGC in 1983. That was a bit sad, but also was very convenient.

    Since I worked all day on Sundays it never made much difference to me anyway!
  • No real prohibitions in my family, though we lived in an area that had strict prohibitions. No alcohol sales. Certain businesses were not open--usually owned by Mormons. We took advantage of that when my kids were young. We would go into a store that would rent VHS tapes (remember them?) Rent them for one night, but we did not have to return them until Monday morning. I tell you, it was a racket.
  • Until 2002 one could not buy petrol (and lots of other things) on Guernsey. However one was unlikely to make lengthy journeys ...
  • SipechSipech Shipmate
    Of course. That was before sat navs would've sent dopey drivers to try to cross the sea.
    c.f. last week's news article about an Amazon driver on the Broomway.
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited February 23
    I was brought up in a non-Christian household in the 1970s and 1980s so did not have any restrictions imposed other than those by the state in relation to shop opening; I roamed about as the free ranging feral youth that I was.
    By the time I became a Christian I was working as a nurse doing shifts at weekends so keeping Sunday special was never a feature.
  • Some Christians were so busy on the Day of Rest (choir practice, morning service, Sunday School, open-air meeting, evening service, youth fellowship ...) that they never had time to do anything else!
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    There are six US States that still prohibit the sale of alcohol on Sundays: Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Utah.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    There are six US States that still prohibit the sale of alcohol on Sundays: Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Utah.

    Does that mean only hard liquor? At the risk of this becoming an autobiography, when we were in Texas near Fort Worth, before moving to Ontario, you could buy beer in the grocery store on Sunday, but only after 12:00 noon. This meant that just before that hour you would see a lot of people standing around near the check-outs with their beer waiting for it to be legal to pay for it.
  • As an undergraduate in the late 1960s I wouldn't study on a Sunday, spening the day with a lovely Brethren family who had taken me under their wing. One Lord's day, at the morning 'Breaking of bread,' a respected elder stood up and said as a special dispensation, we could watch a crucial England vs Germany football match on the BBC that evening. Happy days!
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    There are six US States that still prohibit the sale of alcohol on Sundays: Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Utah.
    North Carolina doesn’t prohibit the sale of alcohol on Sundays, though there are some restrictions. ABC stores—Alcoholic Beverage Control stores, which are operated by local ABC commissions and which are the only places liquor can be legally purchased in North Carolina—are closed on Sunday. But beer, wine, hard cider, etc., can all be sold on Sundays, as can mixed drinks in bars and restaurants. (In some places, local ordinances provide that those sales can only happen after 10 a.m. or after noon.)
    I grew up with some restrictions—not surprising being Presbyterian, in the American South, and from a family full of Presbyterian ministers and elders.

    For us, it boiled down to spending money. No shopping, for example. We could watch tv, but we couldn’t go to the movies. We could swim at the pool where we had a membership, but we couldn’t swim at the town pool, which had an hourly fee.

    Of course, the glaring exception to this was that we’d sometimes go out for lunch after church. That seemed to happen more as I got older, which coincided with my mother going back to work as a teacher. To be fair, she’d readily admit the lack of consistency there. She would note that the restrictions had eased over the generations, and she was willing to ease them a little further.

    Also to be fair, while the restrictions were pretty much imposed when we were children, as we got older it was made clear we could make our own choices, and could do so without worrying about disapproval from our parents.


  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    When I was young, most stores were closed on Sundays by law. New Brunswick, Canada.
  • My family was not really Christian, so Sunday was like any other day. When I married and moved to Missouri, I was astonished to find that you couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays (though you can now). The grocery stores would block off those aisles physically. We found it a pain, as once or twice we needed wine for communion and hadn't got our planning together in time...
  • We avoided shopping on a Sunday and I've generally avoided paid work (though I have relaxed that at need). I still don't shop on a Sunday if I can possibly avoid it and prefer not to put others in the position of having to work if there's a choice.

    That's my view too. Though I have been an inconsiderate, arbitrary so-and-so with other people's sabbath - I remember being put out that just about the only petrol one could find in N.Wales on a Sunday was at Betws-y-Coed, and I got there on fumes once or twice. Nowadays it's one of those things which is definitely not utilitarian, my choices having a vanishingly small effect on the lives of those who have to work on a Sunday. I try to do it anyway.
  • There was a quite prevalent idea in the evangelical wing of the Church of Scotland, when I worshipped there about 15 years ago, that Sunday was 'for the family', which led to some of the children not being able to play with their friends or join sports teams with Sunday training sessions.

    As I don't have children, and lived hundreds of miles from my parents, it wasn't a decision I had to make. My own childhood followed this pattern, often visiting both sets of grandparents, even though my parents were agnostic, so it may be as much a cultural as Christian habit.
  • LydaLyda Shipmate
    All these customs are foreign to me as a cradle Episcopalian from California. I'm still confused by how the edict against working on the Sabbath became an edict against things that make you happy. And if things that can make you happy like sewing and handcrafts can be called work, or cooking that makes the family happy...? A good friend of mine said that her Catholic mom used to say the Rosary while cooking and making clothes for her big family. Sounds pretty holy to me.
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