Christ the King and Christian Nationalism

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  • DavidDavid Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    [By the way, I was able to find that stained-glass window on-line, along with info about the church itself. Apparently, they had six windows dedicated to "Puritan worthies", including Milton.]

    I only remember that one. Mind you, I wasn’t in there for long.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    David wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    [By the way, I was able to find that stained-glass window on-line, along with info about the church itself. Apparently, they had six windows dedicated to "Puritan worthies", including Milton.]

    I only remember that one. Mind you, I wasn’t in there for long.

    FWIW, I am right this moment waiting for the bus across the street from Lester B. Pearson Catholic High School. Lester B. Pearson having been a Methodist.
  • DavidDavid Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    David wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    [By the way, I was able to find that stained-glass window on-line, along with info about the church itself. Apparently, they had six windows dedicated to "Puritan worthies", including Milton.]

    I only remember that one. Mind you, I wasn’t in there for long.

    FWIW, I am right this moment waiting for the bus across the street from Lester B. Pearson Catholic High School. Lester B. Pearson having been a Methodist.

    Wonderful!
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited December 2
    David wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    David wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    [By the way, I was able to find that stained-glass window on-line, along with info about the church itself. Apparently, they had six windows dedicated to "Puritan worthies", including Milton.]

    I only remember that one. Mind you, I wasn’t in there for long.

    FWIW, I am right this moment waiting for the bus across the street from Lester B. Pearson Catholic High School. Lester B. Pearson having been a Methodist.

    Wonderful!

    And he was a son of the manse, to boot.

    Historically, the religious politics of the successive whiggish parties in Canada had as their only consistent theme "Eff off, Anglicans", with Catholics often, though not always, among those returning the favour at the ballot box. That was still remembered here and there as part of the Liberal brand when the school was named, but likely not the officially cited reason.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Pomona wrote: »
    I mean, I agree, but that's also a work of fiction.

    The last scene of that movie ends with the dissolution of parliament, and has Cromwell inconspicuously entering at the exact moment someone is giving a speech about how MPs have the right to rob the public blind. During the banishing, someone points out to OC that this is the sorta thing that he had Charles I executed for, but this tone is quickly set aside for Cromwell giving a speech about how he's now gonna do lotsa good stuff for the people like open schools and universities. A narrator then intones how all this paved the way for modern democracy.

    Sorry, I don't understand what this has to do with my comment.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Pomona wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    Pomona wrote: »
    I mean, I agree, but that's also a work of fiction.

    The last scene of that movie ends with the dissolution of parliament, and has Cromwell inconspicuously entering at the exact moment someone is giving a speech about how MPs have the right to rob the public blind. During the banishing, someone points out to OC that this is the sorta thing that he had Charles I executed for, but this tone is quickly set aside for Cromwell giving a speech about how he's now gonna do lotsa good stuff for the people like open schools and universities. A narrator then intones how all this paved the way for modern democracy.

    Sorry, I don't understand what this has to do with my comment.

    Sorry. More related to the overall context of @ChastMastr calling Cromwell "foul". Just reflecting on how that compared with the scene and the narrator's words.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Yaxley-Lennon has announced that he's organising a big carol concert and nationalistic rally in London on 13th December. He's also (see video in link) enlisted various questionable clergy in support.

    Do any shipmates recognise any of them, know anything about them or what denominations they come from? I don't think the 'bishop' is a real one.


  • Enoch wrote: »
    Do any shipmates recognise any of them, know anything about them or what denominations they come from? I don't think the 'bishop' is a real one.

    I think the guy with the permanent five o'clock shadow claims to be in the ACNA while running an online only church that's part of the continuing Anglican movement. I assume the others similar exist in the liminal space provided by various Anglican adjacent groupuscles.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I see the Church of England is starting to push back on Yaxley-Lennon's version of Christianity
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Sarasa wrote: »
    I see the Church of England is starting to push back on Yaxley-Lennon's version of Christianity
    Good.

  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Second Post
    Going back to the original post, I do not know enough about the Roman Catholic Church in the 1920s or about Pope Pius XI to say anything useful on the subject. However, the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy acquired a dodgy reputation for favouring authoritarian, right wing fascist and quasi-fascist regimes from the 1930s until the 1960s, especially in the 'Latin' speaking countries, provided they were pro-catholic, rather than hostile to the church. The Magisterium gave the impression that it preferred anything to any sort of free-thinkers, Free Masons or Marxism, and that prevailed over any reservations about much else, viz, Franco's Spain, and much of Latin America.

    Was this there from Quas Primus and the introduction of the feast of Christ the King in 1925, or did this develop in the following 10 years? Are there any shipmates who know more about this and can usefully comment?


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