Trump Tariffs

Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
edited July 29 in Purgatory
Let me get this straight.

If Trump is imposing 50% tariffs on imported steal and 25% tariffs on imported car parts, which will significantly raise the prices of cars made in America, while raising finished EU products imported into the United States by 15%, wouldn't be to the advantage of car makers to make their products in Europe?

Meanwhile lawsuits are winding their way through the American International Tarriff Court challenging Trump's claim to emergency powers to impose tariffs. Originally the lower courts had tried to stay Trump's tariff orders but SCOTUS, I think, allowed him to continue to collect the tariffs on the promise he would reimburse them if the courts finally rules against him

Now that would be interesting.

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  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Let me get this straight.

    If Trump is imposing 50% tariffs on imported steal and 25% tariffs on imported car parts, which will significantly raise the prices of cars made in America, while raising finished EU products imported into the United States by 15%, wouldn't be to the advantage of car makers to make their products in Europe?

    Meanwhile lawsuits are winding their way through the American International Tarriff Court challenging Trump's claim to emergency powers to impose tariffs. Originally the lower courts had tried to stay Trump's tariff orders but SCOTUS, I think, allowed him to continue to collect the tariffs on the promise he would reimburse them if the courts finally rules against him

    Now that would be interesting.

    With Trumps attitude towards the law they could be waiting a long time for the money if they did.
  • Gramps49 wrote: »
    50% tariffs on imported steal

    Just to point out he has not and would never tariff imported theft. In fact, he loves it and encourages it at every opportunity.

    Trump does not understand tariffs. He makes this clear again and again. He still seems to think that the countries he imposes them on pay the tariffs, not - as everyone points out - the US consumer.

    If challenged, of course, he says that people should just buy from the US. Ignoring the fact that, in most cases, the US no longer has the capability, to set it up would take decades and cost a fortune, the products would be more expensive therefore and probably of poorer quality, without the experience that other places have of producing them, and so would have only a US market, which is not big enough.

    Of course, being so stupid he would be outsmarted by a squashed grape, he doesn't understand this even a little.

    And anyone who points this out he accuses of being "un-American".
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host

    Of course, being so stupid he would be outsmarted by a squashed grape, he doesn't understand this even a little.

    And anyone who points this out he accuses of being "un-American".

    He thinks he is America. So anyone who disagrees with him is, of course, un-American in his eyes.

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    The case looking at whether or not Trump has the authority to impose these tariffs continues to wind through the courts.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »
    The case looking at whether or not Trump has the authority to impose these tariffs continues to wind through the courts.

    It might not make a difference as far as Trump is concerned. He appears to view court judgments as advisory, except when they affect people he doesn’t like.
  • Not even advisory. Almost always as evidence of disloyalty, leading to revenge.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Politico is reporting the Washington Federal Court of Appeals has given a frosty reception to the claim by Trump he can invoke emergency powers to impose tariffs.

    Of course, even if the appeals court rules against Trump. he will go to SCOTUS--and if they rule against him, that will be a lot of sh-- hitting the fan.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Politico is reporting the Washington Federal Court of Appeals has given a frosty reception to the claim by Trump he can invoke emergency powers to impose tariffs.

    Of course, even if the appeals court rules against Trump. he will go to SCOTUS--and if they rule against him, that will be a lot of sh-- hitting the fan.

    How likely is that. From over here he seems to have a lot of friends in SCOTUS
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Hugal wrote: »
    From over here he seems to have a lot of friends in SCOTUS

    Yup. Six, to be exact.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    If the lower courts have all said there is nothing in the Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 that mentions he can impose tariffs on his own authority, that would be a very tough road to go down. Besides, the Constitution clearly states only Congress has the power to impose impose tariffs Article 1, Section 8
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