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  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited June 7
    Exodus and the instructions for the Passover.

    Preacher talked about how grotesque we might find the blood on the lintels business, but I wish he'd addressed the considerably more grotesque and problematic intention of God to murder every first born child in Egypt to get at the Pharaoh.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    We are going through Ruth. This week was the story of Ruth gathering grain in the fields of Boaz and the kindness he showed her.
  • I didn't listen, too about U2, Cold Chisel and Midnight Oil and trying make a spiritual meaning in song of their 'songs'. Hope my face didn't say bored!!
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    I didn't listen, too about U2, Cold Chisel and Midnight Oil and trying make a spiritual meaning in song of their 'songs'. Hope my face didn't say bored!!

    Familiar of course with U2 who often used overtly spiritual themes in their songs. Not so familiar with the other two but they look like my sort of thing so thanks for the tips!
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I didn't listen, too about U2, Cold Chisel and Midnight Oil and trying make a spiritual meaning in song of their 'songs'. Hope my face didn't say bored!!

    Familiar of course with U2 who often used overtly spiritual themes in their songs. Not so familiar with the other two but they look like my sort of thing so thanks for the tips!

    I recall midnight oil being good
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    We did the call of Matthew and some healings
  • Psalm 19 & John 1: 1-14
    God speaks to us:
    • through Creation
    • through Jesus
    • through the Word (aka The Bible)

  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    We were being urged to get out there and tell people the truth whether they like it or not! The preacher chose the readings, which were from Exodus 20 and Roma s 5, but half way through his sermon he read about Jesus sending out the 12 from Matthew. It wasn’t a bad sermon, until he started to equate ‘the truth’ with morality….
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    The story of Abraham. God took Abraham and Sarah on a journey which changed them, even down to their names being changed. How do we want to transform and change?
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Our sermon thh go us morning (away from home) wasn’t great. The preacher recapped his series on the Lord’s Prayer which was OK, but getting on to the doxology he managed to imply fairly strongly that its omission from modern translations was due to higher criticism and the work of atheist theologians - during the course of which he made reference to his own higher degree in theology.

    I was already struggling because he had in my view mis-divided the petitions in the prayer. But his confusing textual criticism with higher criticism, and his suggestion that the omission of the doxology was due some kind of atheist imposition on the true biblical text really turned me off.
  • Wow!! And how do comments like that help the congregation? He wasn't preaching to theology students!
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    To be fair, I think he probably did say something about praising God, and hymn choices and prayers reflected that. However, that “signal“ was lost for me in the amount of extraneous “noise“.
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    @BroJames it is hard to be in the pew sometimes!
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Yes. I’m not a great listener to sermons - which I’d only partly due to my neurodivergence.
  • Jeremiah 30: 1-3; Luke 24: 44-49; 2 Timothy 3:14–17; John 14: 23- 26

    The Bible is more than a book: it is Words from God

    The Spirit breathed the words of God out.
    These were written down in the book we call the Bible.
    The documents we have are a reliable guide to what was originally written down
    We can relate to the content of these books. because the Bible isn't an instruction manual, it is a story in which we can find our part.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I went back to our old church this morning where they continue their slow grind through detailed look at the Gospel of Matthew.

    In Matthew 12:22-29, the man is not delivered of a demon but healed. Jesus' kingdom is in direct opposition to Satan's kingdom and Satan is a defeated foe. Jesus dealt with the demonic simply and quietly; he always wants us to be set free and will make all things new.
  • Matthew 7: 24-27

    The Bible is more than a book: it is truth we can trust.

    A few stats about manuscripts and comparisons with the numbers from ancient books
    Transmission, selction of the canon.
    A few comments on the external witnesses: Cyrus cylinder, Lakshish panels, some obelisk somewhere. Jesus attested in Josephus and Tacitus.
    Internal consistency despite having been written by over 40 people in a wide geographical area over thousands of years. Dead sea scrolls confirming the accuracy of transmission.

    But more importantly, the words of God which we can build our lives on
  • Anna_BaptistAnna_Baptist Shipmate
    Luke 4: 1-13
    More than a Book : Words that Lead

    Jesus knew the scriptures, put himself under their authority and obeyed them.
    We should do the same.
    This will be useful to us in overcoming temptation
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    Jesus died and rose to save Christians, too--that is, God's gracious forgiveness extends to Christian fuck-ups like us, too, even when we feel horrible because we think we should be "doing better" after fifty years in the faith, and we're still struggling. God doesn't put those expectations on us, and he's not surprised, either-- he just goes right on loving and forgiving and picking us up again. There's room at the cross for all of us, new converts or struggling long-time believers.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Returned to the RCL at my home church. Considered what Jesus meant when he said his yoke was light.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Returned to the RCL at my home church. Considered what Jesus meant when he said his yoke was light.

    Buggered if I know. Everything else he said was about crosses and counting the cost before you even start.

    Unless Mr Cheesy, erstwhile of this parish, was right, and there are in fact two gospels. One to the poor, in the easy yoke and the Magnificat, and one for the rich, in the rich young ruler, taking up crosses, and the Magnificat again. And Dives and Lazarus of course - Lazarus gets in just be being poor; Dives doesn't because he did feck all about it.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    In Genesis 14, King Melchizedek the king of Salem (which means "peace") gave out bread and wine, recognising his role as priest and as an echo of Jesus giving out bread and wine.

    (Ours was a short family service this morning.)
  • Deuteronomy 6: 1-9, Matthew 22: 23-33

    God has made his Word clear enough for anyone to understand, including the child and the simpleton.

    Yes, some of it is hard (but therefore not all) and you should let the Bible interpret itself

    The Holy Spirit brings understanding as we think about the meaning

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