Ukrainian Counter offensive--will they be able to take Crimea?

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  • Anyone for TACO time?
  • Merry Vole wrote: »
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    Why aren't sanctions persuading Putin to give up?

    I think it's because the sanctions are doing Russia more good than harm.

    AFF

    Can you say more?

    Yes I can but I prefer not to. I don't feel safe to air more of my thoughts here than I already have.

    AFF
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    According to Luke Harding of the Guardian, what many news outlets refer to as Trump's peace proposal contains several "Russianisms", phrases that are awkward in English but are common translations of Russian words or phrases.
  • You have to wonder just what dirt Putin has on Trump.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    The videos of the contents of the Steele dossier presumably.
  • You have to wonder just what dirt Putin has on Trump.

    Let me guess

    Sex tapes comes up real high on my list (alleged in Steele report if I recall)
    Financial--Russia has allegedly financed many of Trump's Ventures through Duetsche Bank.
    Interference with American election process.

    Oh, he owes Putin a lot.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    We should probably be mindful of his propensity to sue.
  • We should probably be mindful of his propensity to sue.

    Hence why I didn't go any further than I did. Unusual, I know.
  • Anyone here agree with @A Feminine Force that sanctions are doing Russia more good than harm?
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    This again? "Chamberlain blasts Czechs for having 'zero gratitude' after peace agreement"...
  • Merry Vole wrote: »
    Anyone here agree with @A Feminine Force that sanctions are doing Russia more good than harm?

    I'm not convinced they are doing Russia any good, but they don't seem to be doing a great deal of harm either.
  • ThunderBunkThunderBunk Shipmate
    edited November 23
    They are getting a significantly lower price for their fuel than the international norm. Also they are piling up enormous amounts of debt which they can't service without being able to sell more oil at a higher price. It just doesn't show through, because they've got their murderous dictator reality filter on.. This has existed in Russian culture since Peter the Great (at least), and is its least attractive element. Speaking as a Russianist.
  • You have to wonder just what dirt Putin has on Trump.

    Difficult to know if it's kompromat or just Trump's weaselly nature, whereby he's attracted to 'strong' men and wants to be seen as a) on the winning side and b) as a 'peacemaker'

    The Steele Dossier itself is interesting and (deliberately) misrepresented by Trump and his cronies. In dummary*:
    1. It is a collection of unconfirmed raw intelligence
    2. It was originally contracted by Republicans, later by the Democrats but independently constructed.
    3. Steele (a real expert) was sufficiently alarmed that he handed it to the FBI, as they needed to know and investigate further.
    4. Most of it has since been corroborated so as a whole he should be considered true.
    5. The existence of said video tape remains unconfirmed and is thought by many experts to not exist.

    It's difficult to know if it's kompromat or just Trump's weaselly nature.

    AFZ

    *this was a typo but I left it in, coz I like it.
  • Ukraine and the US-or the Trump administration-has agreed, in principle to a 19 point peace plan. Two differences still need to be ironed out between Zelenski and Trump, apparently dealing with giving up territory and possible future admission to NATO. Zelenski and Trump to meet over the weekend, I think.

    Russia, though, is saying it will not agree to any modification of the plan it had put forward though Trump.

    The war goes on.
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    Unless I am mistaken, nothing in the Steele dossier has been disproven.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Putin has rejected the outlines of the revised peace plan.

    The war goes on.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Putin has rejected the outlines of the revised peace plan.

    The war goes on.

    Putin also tried to assassinate Zelenskyy earlier this week:
    FOUR UNIDENTIFIED MILITARY-STYLE drones breached a no-fly zone and flew towards the flight path of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s plane at sea near Dublin Airport late on Monday night, The Journal has learned.

    The plane landed, slightly ahead of schedule, just moments before the incident happened at about 11pm. The drones reached the location where Zelenskyy’s plane was expected to be at the exact moment it had been due to pass.

    <snip>

    Ireland’s security services have found that the drones in the Irish Sea were large, hugely expensive, of military specification, and that the incident could be classed as a hybrid attack.

    Hybrid warfare is the use of military and non-military tactics, such as drone incursions, cyber attacks, sabotage and disinformation, to weaken or destabilise opponents without declaring a full-scale war. It is generally carried out by state-level military and intelligence services.

    The article very diligently avoids any speculation on whose "large, hugely expensive, of military specification" drones might have somehow gotten into the flight path of the Ukrainian president's plane, but I think most of us have already drawn that inference.
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