The whole thing rather worn and Slightly Sticky to the touch.
Don't forget the blotchy rubber-stamp inside the cover saying "St. Agatha's-by-the-Gasworks, No To Be Taken Away"; and the little pasted-in bit of paper saying "In memory of Doreen Splodgett, a faithful member of the choir from 1892-1946".
So what hymns, one wonders, does said writer think God likes?
Metrical psalms, perhaps; or Wesley and Watts; or perhaps Bach chorales; or "Sacred Songs and Solos"? Obviously anything with "worldly" guitars or drums is out, We need to be told!
The human voice singing only the psalms, of course.
Exactly as written by the very finger of God, in King James English.
Or in the Gaelic. (I'm not sure how the Free Presbyterians mesh their commitment to AV-only in worship and private study with the use of Gaelic. Is the 1801 translation considered equivalent to the AV?)
At the Said Mass, I attend, we are technically back to singing, well when the vicar is there we do sing the Alleluia. That is our weekly norm. On rare occasions, I think once, the vicar has persuaded us to sing something else as well. We leave the rest of the singing to the morning Sung Mass.
At the Said Mass, I attend, we are technically back to singing, well when the vicar is there we do sing the Alleluia. That is our weekly norm. On rare occasions, I think once, the vicar has persuaded us to sing something else as well. We leave the rest of the singing to the morning Sung Mass.
The Gospel Alleluia highlights the Ministry of the Word, so perhaps the Sanctus could also be sung, to highlight the Eucharistic Prayer, as it were?
We had:
Tell out my soul (WOODLANDS)
Fairest Jesus (SOMETHING GERMAN I CAN'T REMEMBER)
Beauty for brokenness
Come holy ghost our hearts inspire (ST COLUMBA)
Love divine (BLAENWERN, of course).
We had:
Tell out my soul (WOODLANDS)
Fairest Jesus (SOMETHING GERMAN I CAN'T REMEMBER)
Beauty for brokenness
Come holy ghost our hearts inspire (ST COLUMBA)
Love divine (BLAENWERN, of course).
Do you mean *Fairest Lord Jesus*?
The usual tune is Schönster Herr Jesu (Most beautiful Lord Jesus). It emerges in Franz Liszt's oratorio Legend of Saint Elizabeth, but no evidence of the tune exists prior to 1842, when the hymn appeared in Schlesische Volkslieder (Silesian Folksongs).
O Christ, the Great Foundation/Aurelia
Alleluia, Alleluia, Give Thanks/Alleluia No. 1
I Love Thy Kingdom, Lord/St. Thomas
Go My Children, With My Blessing/Ar Hyd Y Nos
We had:
Tell out my soul (WOODLANDS)
Fairest Jesus (SOMETHING GERMAN I CAN'T REMEMBER)
Beauty for brokenness
Come holy ghost our hearts inspire (ST COLUMBA)
Love divine (BLAENWERN, of course).
Do you mean *Fairest Lord Jesus*?
The usual tune is Schönster Herr Jesu (Most beautiful Lord Jesus).
We had:
Tell out my soul (WOODLANDS)
Fairest Jesus (SOMETHING GERMAN I CAN'T REMEMBER)
Beauty for brokenness
Come holy ghost our hearts inspire (ST COLUMBA)
Love divine (BLAENWERN, of course).
Do you mean *Fairest Lord Jesus*?
The usual tune is Schönster Herr Jesu (Most beautiful Lord Jesus). It emerges in Franz Liszt's oratorio Legend of Saint Elizabeth, but no evidence of the tune exists prior to 1842, when the hymn appeared in Schlesische Volkslieder (Silesian Folksongs).
So saith Wikipedia, so it must all be True™...
That's the one. I learned it (for a very limited value of "learned") on Saturday evening so it's not yet embedded itself. It's currently trying to merge itself into "Sing all creation, sing to God in gladness".
To be quite honest, so am I - but it was related in some convoluted way to the first lesson which was the death of Absalom. Sometimes the processes of my mind...
We seemed to be rifling the 200s in the morning, as we had 1662 Communion, which we do once a quarter, and sang
The God of Abraham praise (Leoni)
I love that one, though we rarely sing it. Though for some reason (this probably says more about my imagination, that it does about the hymn) taken slowly, it suggests to me a high-ranking Soviet funeral, complete with officers in tall shiny boots and really big caps, goose-stepping sombrely through the snow.
Hmm, goose-step as liturgical dance. I'll have to think about that one.
My first father in law received a state funeral. Some thousands of people packed the cathedral and surrounds in the city where he died, and that was one of the hymns sung.* Strangely I didn't know it, but as I dunno-how-many voices swelled through that building time froze for me and I've never lost the power of that song of praise.
*His widow wanted songs like, er, this ... I have been ever grateful that his daughter saved the day and allowed him and God some gravitas that day.
First Sunday back singing.
Our place is observing the run up to Cop26 for the next few weeks as suggested by Francis.
Morning has Broken.
Celtic Alleluia.
I noodled with John Bell's Take This Moment at the offertory as an instrumental.
Be Still For the Presence at communion.
Majesty at the end.
Congregation sang with mutes (masks.)
We had:
Take this moment
God is love (ABBOT'S LEIGH)
I have a dream (REPTON)
Spirit of God come dwell within me (LEAVING LISMORE)
Moved by the Gospel (ELLACOMBE)
Nice!
We had a bit of Psalm 9
Then the projection seemed to go bust, and since there were no hymn books to hand, except with the “choir” (unison, poor diction but a nice sound) they had to sing us bits of Dear Lord and Father of Mankind and then the whole of - wait for it - Shine, Jesus, shine!
Nice!
We had a bit of Psalm 9
Then the projection seemed to go bust, and since there were no hymn books to hand, except with the “choir” (unison, poor diction but a nice sound) they had to sing us bits of Dear Lord and Father of Mankind and then the whole of - wait for it - Shine, Jesus, shine!
You mean they didn't just line out metrical psalms for you? Is outrage!
We weren’t at home today. We were where we typically are during summer, and today that meant that distinctively American service that has been discussed on the Ship before and that can be encountered in some* Presbyterian churches and occasionally Episcopal churches (including the National Cathedral) as well as certain other gatherings—the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan.
We had:
Immortal, Invisible God Only Wise/St. Denio**
The Lord’s My Shepherd/Crimond (the sermon was on the 23rd Psalm)
Amazing Grace—obligatory I suppose
Flowers of the Forest was also played by a lone piper after the reading of the names of those in the community who had died since the last Kirkin’ in May 2019. (This service is usually held on Memorial Day weekend at the start of the summer, but Covid meant it got skipped in 2020 and pushed back to Labor Day weekend this year, so a longer than usual necrology this year.)
* Just to be clear, a relatively small number of Presbyterian churches. I suspect most Presbyterians, and even more Episcopalians, have never encountered a Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan and many have never even heard of it.
And we certainly don’t Kirk the tartan in the land of its birth! We either wear it or don’t. I have nothing tartan in my wardrobe, though Mr Cats has a second hand kilt from his days in a fiddlers’ group ( he was keyboards).
I went to a Funeral Mass at Our Place today, but didn't stay for the singing...
Offertory hymn was All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune); Lord's Prayer was a metrical version sung to the tune of Auld Lang Syne (I think Cliff Richard is to blame for this); Communion hymn was I Watch The Sunrise (by John Glynn). Not one I've come across, but the words seem appropriate for the funeral of a Christian lady - she may well have chosen the hymns herself...
Holy Communion - back to 1928 this morning, which I found long winded after 1662 last week.
Opening - "God, my king, my might confessing" (Stuttgart)
Gradual - "Come, gracious Spirit, heav'nly dove" (Mendon)
Closing - "Praise, my soul, the king of heaven" (Lauda Anima)
Evening Prayer
Office Hymn - "O blest creator of the light" (Bromley)
After the Office - "All praise to thee, my God this night," (Tallis' Canon)
Before the Sermon - "All hail the power of Jesus' name" (Coronation)
Closing - "Faith of our Fathers! living still" (St. Catherine)
And we certainly don’t Kirk the tartan in the land of its birth! We either wear it or don’t. I have nothing tartan in my wardrobe, though Mr Cats has a second hand kilt from his days in a fiddlers’ group ( he was keyboards).
Like Cathscats, the kirkin' of the tartan is not something I have ever experienced here in Scotland.
Yes, it’s definitely an American thing, though with the requisite “legend has it” in the mix. You can read the history of it here. (I was fascinated to learn of a Kirkin’ in an Orthodox church. I’ve only encountered the service in Presbyterian and Episcopal churches, or at a gathering like the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games.). The Kirkin’ we attended yesterday makes no pretense of actual Scottish origins of the service.
It’s an enjoyable occasion, though I always assume a Scot would be bemused by the whole thing. (That said, I’ve known of a number of Scots who’ve preached or had other leadership roles in the service, or who’ve attended. I think they took it in appropriate and good humored stride.)
Anyway, once I realized we’d be here for the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan, I couldn’t help but think of the fun of posting about it in this thread,
I went to a Funeral Mass at Our Place today, but didn't stay for the singing...
Offertory hymn was All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune); Lord's Prayer was a metrical version sung to the tune of Auld Lang Syne (I think Cliff Richard is to blame for this); Communion hymn was I Watch The Sunrise (by John Glynn). Not one I've come across, but the words seem appropriate for the funeral of a Christian lady - she may well have chosen the hymns herself...
We often do I watch the sunrise at funerals.
Personal note ... John was an RC priest. I was at the seminary with him so sang and played this before it was ever published. The hymn has been much recorded.
And we certainly don’t Kirk the tartan in the land of its birth! We either wear it or don’t. I have nothing tartan in my wardrobe, though Mr Cats has a second hand kilt from his days in a fiddlers’ group ( he was keyboards).
Like Cathscats, the kirkin' of the tartan is not something I have ever experienced here in Scotland.
Yes, it’s definitely an American thing, though with the requisite “legend has it” in the mix. You can read the history of it here. (I was fascinated to learn of a Kirkin’ in an Orthodox church. I’ve only encountered the service in Presbyterian and Episcopal churches, or at a gathering like the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games.). The Kirkin’ we attended yesterday makes no pretense of actual Scottish origins of the service.
It’s an enjoyable occasion, though I always assume a Scot would be bemused by the whole thing. (That said, I’ve known of a number of Scots who’ve preached or had other leadership roles in the service, or who’ve attended. I think they took it in appropriate and good humored stride.)
Anyway, once I realized we’d be here for the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan, I couldn’t help but think of the fun of posting about it in this thread,
Pretty much everything to do with tartan apart from the bare fact of its existence is romantic, anachronistic tosh. Scots are used to it after a couple of centuries.
And we certainly don’t Kirk the tartan in the land of its birth! We either wear it or don’t. I have nothing tartan in my wardrobe, though Mr Cats has a second hand kilt from his days in a fiddlers’ group ( he was keyboards).
Like Cathscats, the kirkin' of the tartan is not something I have ever experienced here in Scotland.
Yes, it’s definitely an American thing, though with the requisite “legend has it” in the mix. You can read the history of it here. (I was fascinated to learn of a Kirkin’ in an Orthodox church. I’ve only encountered the service in Presbyterian and Episcopal churches, or at a gathering like the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games.). The Kirkin’ we attended yesterday makes no pretense of actual Scottish origins of the service.
It’s an enjoyable occasion, though I always assume a Scot would be bemused by the whole thing. (That said, I’ve known of a number of Scots who’ve preached or had other leadership roles in the service, or who’ve attended. I think they took it in appropriate and good humored stride.)
Anyway, once I realized we’d be here for the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan, I couldn’t help but think of the fun of posting about it in this thread,
Pretty much everything to do with tartan apart from the bare fact of its existence is romantic, anachronistic tosh. Scots are used to it after a couple of centuries.
Such is the story regarding many things the world over.
I went to a Funeral Mass at Our Place today, but didn't stay for the singing...
Offertory hymn was All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune); Lord's Prayer was a metrical version sung to the tune of Auld Lang Syne (I think Cliff Richard is to blame for this); Communion hymn was I Watch The Sunrise (by John Glynn). Not one I've come across, but the words seem appropriate for the funeral of a Christian lady - she may well have chosen the hymns herself...
We often do I watch the sunrise at funerals.
Personal note ... John was an RC priest. I was at the seminary with him so sang and played this before it was ever published. The hymn has been much recorded.
Thanks @Alan29 - I think the hymn was sung during Communion by our organist and her husband, rather than by the congregation. It has indeed been much recorded - I've been listening to a few versions on YouTube!
All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune);
It fits to the tune of Match Of The Day, but I'm pretty certain you didn't sing it to that one.
And, yes, I know that Lord's Prayer setting and you're right about Cliff Richard.
Hehe. Yet one more thing that silly Man has to answer for...along with Mistletoe and Wine... 🤢🤢🤢
The two tunes for ATBAB in our default hymnbook, which was the one used yesterday, are: All things bright and beautiful - by W H Monk Royal Oak - a traditional English melody
I know (and like) both tunes, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the tune by Monk is better-known, and was sung at the funeral yesterday.
I went to a Funeral Mass at Our Place today, but didn't stay for the singing...
Offertory hymn was All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune); Lord's Prayer was a metrical version sung to the tune of Auld Lang Syne (I think Cliff Richard is to blame for this); Communion hymn was I Watch The Sunrise (by John Glynn). Not one I've come across, but the words seem appropriate for the funeral of a Christian lady - she may well have chosen the hymns herself...
We often do I watch the sunrise at funerals.
Personal note ... John was an RC priest. I was at the seminary with him so sang and played this before it was ever published. The hymn has been much recorded.
Thanks @Alan29 - I think the hymn was sung during Communion by our organist and her husband, rather than by the congregation. It has indeed been much recorded - I've been listening to a few versions on YouTube!
This is one that doesn’t seem to have crossed The Pond yet, so I too have spent some time with it on YouTube. One of the things I love about this thread.
All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune);
It fits to the tune of Match Of The Day, but I'm pretty certain you didn't sing it to that one.
And, yes, I know that Lord's Prayer setting and you're right about Cliff Richard.
Hehe. Yet one more thing that silly Man has to answer for...along with Mistletoe and Wine... 🤢🤢🤢
The two tunes for ATBAB in our default hymnbook, which was the one used yesterday, are: All things bright and beautiful - by W H Monk Royal Oak - a traditional English melody
I know (and like) both tunes, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the tune by Monk is better-known, and was sung at the funeral yesterday.
Depends on where you are. Royal Oak is the standard tune in my (American) experience, while Monk’s is the tune for Monty Python’s “All Things Dull and Ugly.”
ATBAB is set to Royal Oak in the 1940 Hymnal. When I see the words, though, my mind seems to hop back to the Monk tune, which must have been the one we sang everything 'Sir' got stuck for a hymn when I was in school! Having seen done to death when I was at school, we don't sing it very often.
On the whole, I think I must also have been brought up with Monk's tune, but (of the two) I prefer Royal Oak.
Apart from anything else, it's a Good Old Traditional English Melody...and has some nice twiddly bits...
I'm the same, having just reminded myself of both with the help of YouTube. I was startled, however, to hear one of the renditions include the verse about "The rich man in his castle" which we certainly never sang at school and I don't remember seeing included in any hymn book.
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Don't forget the blotchy rubber-stamp inside the cover saying "St. Agatha's-by-the-Gasworks, No To Be Taken Away"; and the little pasted-in bit of paper saying "In memory of Doreen Splodgett, a faithful member of the choir from 1892-1946".
Or in the Gaelic. (I'm not sure how the Free Presbyterians mesh their commitment to AV-only in worship and private study with the use of Gaelic. Is the 1801 translation considered equivalent to the AV?)
I read that far and instantly had a mental vision of Brubeck's 'Take Five' or Mancini's 'Pink Panther' themes!
Well ... Brubeck did compose a Mass.
Yeah, Daddio!
The Gospel Alleluia highlights the Ministry of the Word, so perhaps the Sanctus could also be sung, to highlight the Eucharistic Prayer, as it were?
Old Hundredth
I need Thee every hour
Now thank we all our God.
Tell out my soul (WOODLANDS)
Fairest Jesus (SOMETHING GERMAN I CAN'T REMEMBER)
Beauty for brokenness
Come holy ghost our hearts inspire (ST COLUMBA)
Love divine (BLAENWERN, of course).
Do you mean *Fairest Lord Jesus*?
The usual tune is Schönster Herr Jesu (Most beautiful Lord Jesus). It emerges in Franz Liszt's oratorio Legend of Saint Elizabeth, but no evidence of the tune exists prior to 1842, when the hymn appeared in Schlesische Volkslieder (Silesian Folksongs).
So saith Wikipedia, so it must all be True™...
O Christ, the Great Foundation/Aurelia
Alleluia, Alleluia, Give Thanks/Alleluia No. 1
I Love Thy Kingdom, Lord/St. Thomas
Go My Children, With My Blessing/Ar Hyd Y Nos Also often known as Crusaders’ Hymn.
But ... but ... but what does Hymnary say?
Quite a lot, in fact:
https://hymnary.org/text/fairest_lord_jesus_ruler_of_all_nature
and
https://hymnary.org/tune/crusaders_hymn_111271
We have it at ours.
Its the epitome of drab and plodding.
That's the one. I learned it (for a very limited value of "learned") on Saturday evening so it's not yet embedded itself. It's currently trying to merge itself into "Sing all creation, sing to God in gladness".
The God of Abraham praise (Leoni)
Holy, Holy, Holy (Nicaea)
How wondrous and great (Lyon)
In the evening, for Evensong
Sun of my soul (Hursley)
God of our Fathers (National Hymn)
O God of Earth and Altar (King's Lynn)
Once to every man and nation (Ton-y-Botel)
It seemed to be a better than usual turn out this Sunday, though next will be dreck it being Labor Day weekend.
To be quite honest, so am I - but it was related in some convoluted way to the first lesson which was the death of Absalom. Sometimes the processes of my mind...
I love that one, though we rarely sing it. Though for some reason (this probably says more about my imagination, that it does about the hymn) taken slowly, it suggests to me a high-ranking Soviet funeral, complete with officers in tall shiny boots and really big caps, goose-stepping sombrely through the snow.
Hmm, goose-step as liturgical dance. I'll have to think about that one.
Is that like "Roses are blooming in...?"
I'll get my coat.
If you must get your coat, make it a huge fur thing with matching ushanka and sing 'Leoni' while practising your goose-step.
*His widow wanted songs like, er, this ... I have been ever grateful that his daughter saved the day and allowed him and God some gravitas that day.
Our place is observing the run up to Cop26 for the next few weeks as suggested by Francis.
Morning has Broken.
Celtic Alleluia.
I noodled with John Bell's Take This Moment at the offertory as an instrumental.
Be Still For the Presence at communion.
Majesty at the end.
Congregation sang with mutes (masks.)
It went well, regardless, as the congregation is still very appreciative of the chance to sing Blaenwern loudly.
We had an open air service this morning and we sang:
The Goodness of God
Waymaker
Amazing Grace
and Faith As Small As A Mustard Seed complete with actions (not the same ones as in the video and without the do-do-do bits at the end).
Take this moment
God is love (ABBOT'S LEIGH)
I have a dream (REPTON)
Spirit of God come dwell within me (LEAVING LISMORE)
Moved by the Gospel (ELLACOMBE)
We had a bit of Psalm 9
Then the projection seemed to go bust, and since there were no hymn books to hand, except with the “choir” (unison, poor diction but a nice sound) they had to sing us bits of Dear Lord and Father of Mankind and then the whole of - wait for it - Shine, Jesus, shine!
You mean they didn't just line out metrical psalms for you? Is outrage!
We weren’t at home today. We were where we typically are during summer, and today that meant that distinctively American service that has been discussed on the Ship before and that can be encountered in some* Presbyterian churches and occasionally Episcopal churches (including the National Cathedral) as well as certain other gatherings—the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan.
We had:
Immortal, Invisible God Only Wise/St. Denio**
The Lord’s My Shepherd/Crimond (the sermon was on the 23rd Psalm)
Amazing Grace—obligatory I suppose
Flowers of the Forest was also played by a lone piper after the reading of the names of those in the community who had died since the last Kirkin’ in May 2019. (This service is usually held on Memorial Day weekend at the start of the summer, but Covid meant it got skipped in 2020 and pushed back to Labor Day weekend this year, so a longer than usual necrology this year.)
* Just to be clear, a relatively small number of Presbyterian churches. I suspect most Presbyterians, and even more Episcopalians, have never encountered a Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan and many have never even heard of it.
** Written by Walter Chalmers Smith.
Offertory hymn was All Things Bright And Beautiful (dunno which tune);
Lord's Prayer was a metrical version sung to the tune of Auld Lang Syne (I think Cliff Richard is to blame for this);
Communion hymn was I Watch The Sunrise (by John Glynn). Not one I've come across, but the words seem appropriate for the funeral of a Christian lady - she may well have chosen the hymns herself...
Opening - "God, my king, my might confessing" (Stuttgart)
Gradual - "Come, gracious Spirit, heav'nly dove" (Mendon)
Closing - "Praise, my soul, the king of heaven" (Lauda Anima)
Evening Prayer
Office Hymn - "O blest creator of the light" (Bromley)
After the Office - "All praise to thee, my God this night," (Tallis' Canon)
Before the Sermon - "All hail the power of Jesus' name" (Coronation)
Closing - "Faith of our Fathers! living still" (St. Catherine)
I had no idea he was an Aberdonian. I will tuck that piece of info away -it's sure to come in useful at some point.
Like Cathscats, the kirkin' of the tartan is not something I have ever experienced here in Scotland.
It’s an enjoyable occasion, though I always assume a Scot would be bemused by the whole thing. (That said, I’ve known of a number of Scots who’ve preached or had other leadership roles in the service, or who’ve attended. I think they took it in appropriate and good humored stride.)
Anyway, once I realized we’d be here for the Kirkin’ o’ the Tartan, I couldn’t help but think of the fun of posting about it in this thread,
We often do I watch the sunrise at funerals.
Personal note ... John was an RC priest. I was at the seminary with him so sang and played this before it was ever published. The hymn has been much recorded.
Pretty much everything to do with tartan apart from the bare fact of its existence is romantic, anachronistic tosh. Scots are used to it after a couple of centuries.
Thanks @Alan29 - I think the hymn was sung during Communion by our organist and her husband, rather than by the congregation. It has indeed been much recorded - I've been listening to a few versions on YouTube!
And, yes, I know that Lord's Prayer setting and you're right about Cliff Richard.
Hehe. Yet one more thing that silly Man has to answer for...along with Mistletoe and Wine... 🤢🤢🤢
The two tunes for ATBAB in our default hymnbook, which was the one used yesterday, are:
All things bright and beautiful - by W H Monk
Royal Oak - a traditional English melody
I know (and like) both tunes, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the tune by Monk is better-known, and was sung at the funeral yesterday.
Depends on where you are. Royal Oak is the standard tune in my (American) experience, while Monk’s is the tune for Monty Python’s “All Things Dull and Ugly.”
Apart from anything else, it's a Good Old Traditional English Melody...and has some nice twiddly bits...