It’s not that naughty. IIRC it begins
[iOn Jordan‘s bank the Baptists cry.
If I were a Baptist so would I[/i]
I can’t remember the rest. @Piglet will know.
It’s not that naughty. IIRC it begins
[iOn Jordan‘s bank the Baptists cry.
If I were a Baptist so would I[/i]
I can’t remember the rest. @Piglet will know.
They drink no beer, they have no fun
I’m glad I am an Anglican
It’s not that naughty. IIRC it begins
[iOn Jordan‘s bank the Baptists cry.
If I were a Baptist so would I[/i]
I can’t remember the rest. @Piglet will know.
They drink no beer, they have no fun
I’m glad I am an Anglican
I’ve also heard that last line as
“I’m glad I am a Lutheran” or
“I’m glad I’m Presbyterian.”
God is good, God is good to us, All through time, praise him for he is good (a new one to me) Jesus said that if I thirst I can come to him Great is the darkness that covers the earth (come, Lord Jesus) I just want to speak the name of Jesus What gift of grace is Jesus my redeemer
On the subject of the naughty versions of songs, I can't sing Your love is amazing after the hilarious parody thread we had on The Old Ship.
The oxymoronic Week of Prayer for Christian Unity starts soon.
Like a mighty tortoise
moves the church of God!
People, we are treading
where we've always trod.
We are all divided - many bodies, we;
Lots of diff'rent doctrines, little charity...
The oxymoronic Week of Prayer for Christian Unity starts soon.
Like a mighty tortoise
moves the church of God!
People, we are treading
where we've always trod.
We are all divided - many bodies, we;
Lots of diff'rent doctrines, little charity...
Apologies for unkind tangent. Please carry on.
Onward Christian soldiers
Spoiling for a fight
With the cross of Jesus
Kept firmly out of sight
Reminds me of the ( true) story of when a certain (Sydney)Anglican area bishop came to Mass at the ( very AC) Christ Church St Laurence and instructed the PP (Father John Hope of sainted memory) to remove the crucifer and crucifix from the procession into church. Father Hope replied “ very well my lord Bishop, so be it and the opening hymn will be…..”see Piglet’s post above.
Together with the Absent-minded Acolyte, no doubt.
Tomorrow:
"Jesus calls us here to meet him” - Blaenwern.
“I, the Lord of sea and sky”.
“Jesus calls us o'er the tumult” - St. Andrew.
“I want to walk as a child of the light”.
“We’ve a story to tell to the nations”.
Todays music has some proper mid century RC favourites.
Here I am Lord
Make me a channel of your peace*
Centre of my life - Inwood
You shall cross the barren desert (Be not afraid) - Dufford.
* Our hymn book arranges this one as V1, V2, chorus, V3. Very odd, to my ears. I'm playing it at a CofE funeral tomorrow where there will be a chorus between Vv 1 and 2. It will also have All things bright and beautiful and One more step along the way. I always imagine the last one being played by a fairground organ, but as its a funeral I will have to rein it in somewhat.
At 9 o'clock communion.
My God, how wonderful you are - WESTMINSTER
Through All the Changing Scenes of Life - WILTSHIRE
O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go - ST. MARGARET
The hymns appear to have been chosen to reflect today's sermon theme of life after death.
... I always imagine the last one being played by a fairground organ, but as its a funeral I will have to rein it in somewhat.
Not necessarily. When my brother-in-law died, David played for the funeral, and at the specific request of the deceased, we went out to the Sortie in E flat by Lefebure-Wely - which really does sound like fairground music - to the slight bewilderment of the congregation. It was also a favourite of my dad's; he asked for it when my mum died, and David played it at Dad's funeral as well.
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Our offerings for Epiphany 2 at St Pete's:
As with gladness men of old - Dix There is a redeemer O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness - Was Lebet Purify my heart - Refiner's Fire God of grace and God of glory - Regent Square*
* I think this should have been to Rhuddlan, but what would I know?
We went out to the Sortie in E flat by Lefebure-Wely - which really does sound like fairground music - to the slight bewilderment of the congregation. It was also a favourite of my dad's; he asked for it when my mum died, and David played it at Dad's funeral as well.
I love it, but an organist I know refused to play it at the end of services as he thought it too frivolous.
Lower voices...but really there were lots of basses and one tenor....
I come with joy a child of God (Botolph)
Metrical Gloria to Cuddeston
Alleluia Sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol)
Dear Lord and Father (Repton)
Thou whose almighty word (Moscow)
McMillan St Anne's Mass
Anthem: I the Lord of sea and sky Schutte arr Weaver
For us basses, singing the melody line throughout was a bit of a stretch at times, but there we are..
Last week I wasn't around, but there were two different settings of 'Dancing Day' Gardner in the morning, and Tamsin Jones in the evening. I listened to both during the week - love the text - and enjoyed the new Jones.
Voluntary was the lovely Toccata - Adagio - Fugue: Toccata in C BWV 564 JSB.
We went out to the Sortie in E flat by Lefebure-Wely - which really does sound like fairground music - to the slight bewilderment of the congregation. It was also a favourite of my dad's; he asked for it when my mum died, and David played it at Dad's funeral as well.
I love it, but an organist I know refused to play it at the end of services as he thought it too frivolous.
We went out to the Sortie in E flat by Lefebure-Wely - which really does sound like fairground music - to the slight bewilderment of the congregation. It was also a favourite of my dad's; he asked for it when my mum died, and David played it at Dad's funeral as well.
I love it, but an organist I know refused to play it at the end of services as he thought it too frivolous.
I managed to choose to tunes for hymns which our congregation didn’t really know. Quite an achievement given that we’ve been together for over 25 years. Music is a mixture: Organist once or twice a month, other instrumentalists once or twice a month recorded music apart from that. Today we had:
All hail the power of Jesu’s name DIADEM
When Jesus came to Jordan ELLACOMBE
At the name of Jesus CAMBERWELL
When God Almighty came to earth O WALY, WALY
It was the first and the last which were not known. They do know the tune to the last one, but it was a very odd performance of it.
Group communion
Hail to the Lord’s anointed
Thou whose almighty word
I the Lord of sea and sky
Will you come and follow me
( No tunes as I wasn’t there)
Evensong
Introit: Drop, drop slow tears ( Gibbons)
Responses: Smith
Canticles: Morley
Anthem: From the rising of the sun( Ousley)
Hymns:
I come with joy ( St. Botolph)
Just as I am ( Saffron Walden)
Alleluia sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol )
Second Sunday after Epiphany/Second Sunday in Ordinary Time today, but also the day before Martin Luther King, Jr. day here in the States, and that was what was primarily marked in the service. The hymns were:
I have no idea what they sang at Our Place*, where the theme was 'The Conversion Of St Paul', but they may have had We sing the glorious conquest before Damascus' gate (Ellacombe).
The lyrics aren't in the Orange Book, but the tune is - it's set for The day of resurrection - so our people would probably know it.
*no hymn numbers on FatherInCharge's weekly news-sheet, and my Spy is incommunicado today...
Amused at the comments over the Wely... it is indeed a frivolous thing imho and a bugger to play but I wouldn't refuse nonetheless. We all need a penance occasionally lol.
@BroJames if you are Anglican (?) I doubt if many parishes would know Diadem very well as (at least around the west country) it is very much the 'chapel tune' with Miles Lane in C of E circles. I like it admittedly but got fingers burnt myself once (on a rare occasion a tune wasn't specified) as I did with Ladywell on another occasion for All hail the power which resulted in organ solo and an angry vicar 🤭 As to Waly Waly that is the luck of the draw ime.
Anyway only an Epiphany 2 Eucharist today for me to cover.
Songs of thankfulness (St Edmund)
Appleford setting
Alleluia was 'a capella'
The church's one foundation (Aurelia). ** sorry Aurelia haters 🤣
O thou who at thy Eucharist (Unde et memores)
Jesus shall reign (Truro) 😀
I was unwell last week so didn't report on the Epiphany feast, all pretty much normal EH hymns to the usual tunes but for the processional which was off The Sheet. Has anyone come across "Lo the pilgrim magi" (sorry don't remember the rest but had wonderful lyrics) I was told it originated either in Canada or USA. A manuscript was provided for the tune called Whitworth which I had never seen or heard before but was rather good. Interested to know if anyone has come across either tune or words before.
I'd say Cwm Rhondda, but I'm a dirty Yank so who knows.
Well, Harry Emerson Fosdick, who wrote the text in 1930, was also a Yank. Fosdick intended “God of Grace and God of Glory” to be sung to REGENT SQUARE. It was the (American) Methodists who put the text to CWM RHONDDA in their 1935 hymnal, and that quickly became the normal pairing in the US.
Despite the author's intentions, I'd go for "Rhuddlan".
I agree to about "Diadem" being the "chapel" tune for "All hail the power", as opposed to "Miles Lane" foe the Anglicans. I believe the Americans go for "Coronation".
(Gosh, all those inverted commas - I've probably created a world shortage).
I agree to about "Diadem" being the "chapel" tune for "All hail the power", as opposed to "Miles Lane" foe the Anglicans. I believe the Americans go for "Coronation".
It depends on the Americans. Presbyterian, Lutheran (ELCA and LC–MS), Reformed (RCA and CRCNA) and United Church of Christ hymnals go for CORONATION. The United Methodist, Moravian and Southern Baptist hymnals go for both CORONATION and DIADEM. (DIADEM is what I’ve actually encountered being in United Methodist services.) The Episcopal hymnal goes for both CORONATION and MILES LANE. (Older Reformed hymnals did likewise.)
I agree to about "Diadem" being the "chapel" tune for "All hail the power", as opposed to "Miles Lane" foe the Anglicans. I believe the Americans go for "Coronation".
It depends on the Americans. Presbyterian, Lutheran (ELCA and LC–MS), Reformed (RCA and CRCNA) and United Church of Christ hymnals go for CORONATION. The United Methodist, Moravian and Southern Baptist hymnals go for both CORONATION and DIADEM. (DIADEM is what I’ve actually encountered being in United Methodist services.) The Episcopal hymnal goes for both CORONATION and MILES LANE. (Older Reformed hymnals did likewise.)
Growing up PCA, we had DIADEM and CORONATION in the hymnal, but sang the former. Lutheran contexts I've been in are more 50/50 MILES LANE/CORONATION, and although the TEC hymnal has both of those, I've only sung it in those contexts to CORONATION.
I agree to about "Diadem" being the "chapel" tune for "All hail the power", as opposed to "Miles Lane" foe the Anglicans. I believe the Americans go for "Coronation".
It depends on the Americans. Presbyterian, Lutheran (ELCA and LC–MS), Reformed (RCA and CRCNA) and United Church of Christ hymnals go for CORONATION. The United Methodist, Moravian and Southern Baptist hymnals go for both CORONATION and DIADEM. (DIADEM is what I’ve actually encountered being in United Methodist services.) The Episcopal hymnal goes for both CORONATION and MILES LANE. (Older Reformed hymnals did likewise.)
Growing up PCA, we had DIADEM and CORONATION in the hymnal, but sang the former. Lutheran contexts I've been in are more 50/50 MILES LANE/CORONATION, and although the TEC hymnal has both of those, I've only sung it in those contexts to CORONATION.
What hymnal(s) did your PCA place use? Was it the Trinity Hymnal? As I recall, many PCA churches, at least until the PCA joined in on the Trinity Hymnal (around 1990?) continued to use the 1955 Hymnbook they “inherited” when they withdrew from the PCUS, and it had CORONATION and MILES LANE. But growing up in he old PCUS, and singing out of the Hymnbook for the first 30 years of my life, I never encountered MILES LANE being used.
@Baptist Trainfan yes, thank you that is the one, very nice words I thought. and the tune was also good but wish now I'd taken a screenshot as "Whitworth" is referred to online but without the music.
On another tangent I first came across "God of grace" in around 68/69 when it appeared in 100 hymns for today. As a student I rather liked the words and have only ever (in England) heard it to Regent Square which was the set tune in that book. Never been asked to play it to anything else although agree Rhuddlan would be a good fit.
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I'm reminded of the Alice Tinker version of While Shepherds:
While shepherds watched their flocks by night
All seated on a bank
The angel of the Lord came down
And taught them how to
Unfortunately the Rev cut her off at that point so we remain unenlightened as to the precise nature of the Seraph's instruction.
[iOn Jordan‘s bank the Baptists cry.
If I were a Baptist so would I[/i]
I can’t remember the rest. @Piglet will know.
They drink no beer, they have no fun
I’m glad I am an Anglican
“I’m glad I am a Lutheran” or
“I’m glad I’m Presbyterian.”
Jesus said that if I thirst I can come to him
Great is the darkness that covers the earth (come, Lord Jesus)
I just want to speak the name of Jesus
What gift of grace is Jesus my redeemer
On the subject of the naughty versions of songs, I can't sing Your love is amazing after the hilarious parody thread we had on The Old Ship.
Just looked this up. Thank you! Right up my street.
Like a mighty tortoise
moves the church of God!
People, we are treading
where we've always trod.
We are all divided - many bodies, we;
Lots of diff'rent doctrines, little charity...
Apologies for unkind tangent. Please carry on.
Onward Christian soldiers
Spoiling for a fight
With the cross of Jesus
Kept firmly out of sight
I hope @KarlLB won't mind if I amend his last two lines thus:
With the love of Jesus
Firmly out of sight
Each to war resigned,
With the cross of Jesus
Vaguely kept in mind...
You can divide the final note of the previous line and put the "kept" on the second part of said divided note.
Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war
With the Cross of Jesus
Left behind the door.
Sorry - that wasn't much help ...
The Bishop backed down.
Ah, the Forgetful Crucifer version.
Tomorrow:
"Jesus calls us here to meet him” - Blaenwern.
“I, the Lord of sea and sky”.
“Jesus calls us o'er the tumult” - St. Andrew.
“I want to walk as a child of the light”.
“We’ve a story to tell to the nations”.
Here I am Lord
Make me a channel of your peace*
Centre of my life - Inwood
You shall cross the barren desert (Be not afraid) - Dufford.
* Our hymn book arranges this one as V1, V2, chorus, V3. Very odd, to my ears. I'm playing it at a CofE funeral tomorrow where there will be a chorus between Vv 1 and 2. It will also have All things bright and beautiful and One more step along the way. I always imagine the last one being played by a fairground organ, but as its a funeral I will have to rein it in somewhat.
My God, how wonderful you are - WESTMINSTER
Through All the Changing Scenes of Life - WILTSHIRE
O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go - ST. MARGARET
The hymns appear to have been chosen to reflect today's sermon theme of life after death.
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Our offerings for Epiphany 2 at St Pete's:
As with gladness men of old - Dix
There is a redeemer
O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness - Was Lebet
Purify my heart - Refiner's Fire
God of grace and God of glory - Regent Square*
* I think this should have been to Rhuddlan, but what would I know?
There is a redeemer
Just as I am
There's a wideness in God's mercy
I can almost smell the engine oil and candyfloss.
I come with joy a child of God (Botolph)
Metrical Gloria to Cuddeston
Alleluia Sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol)
Dear Lord and Father (Repton)
Thou whose almighty word (Moscow)
McMillan St Anne's Mass
Anthem: I the Lord of sea and sky Schutte arr Weaver
For us basses, singing the melody line throughout was a bit of a stretch at times, but there we are..
Last week I wasn't around, but there were two different settings of 'Dancing Day' Gardner in the morning, and Tamsin Jones in the evening. I listened to both during the week - love the text - and enjoyed the new Jones.
Voluntary was the lovely Toccata - Adagio - Fugue: Toccata in C BWV 564 JSB.
Cheers
Heron
Too frivolous or too difficult for him to play?
I Lift My Eyes Up
Oceans Deep (You call me out upon the waters)
Mercy (I will kneel in the dust at the foot of the cross)
Too frivolous - he could play all right!
I wonder how many actually lingered, simply to enjoy the music!
- All hail the power of Jesu’s name DIADEM
- When Jesus came to Jordan ELLACOMBE
- At the name of Jesus CAMBERWELL
- When God Almighty came to earth O WALY, WALY
It was the first and the last which were not known. They do know the tune to the last one, but it was a very odd performance of it.Hail to the Lord’s anointed
Thou whose almighty word
I the Lord of sea and sky
Will you come and follow me
( No tunes as I wasn’t there)
Evensong
Introit: Drop, drop slow tears ( Gibbons)
Responses: Smith
Canticles: Morley
Anthem: From the rising of the sun( Ousley)
Hymns:
I come with joy ( St. Botolph)
Just as I am ( Saffron Walden)
Alleluia sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol )
Basses 4
Tenors 1 ( = our MD )
Altos 6
Sopranos 4
Congregation 5
Priest
Organist
Guide Me, O Thou Great Redeemer (Cwm Rhonda)
How Firm a Foundation (Montgomery)
Fight the good fight (Duke Street)
“God, the Sculptor of the Mountains”/JENNINGS-HOUSTON
“Rain Down, Rain Down” (and yes, it was raining)
“Jesus, the Son of God”/DO YOU KNOW JESUS
“Go Make a Difference”
The choir also sang what I’ll label a choral prelude—Dave Rowe’s song using as its chorus these words of King:
I have decided to stick with love.
Hate is too great a burden to bear.
The lyrics aren't in the Orange Book, but the tune is - it's set for The day of resurrection - so our people would probably know it.
*no hymn numbers on FatherInCharge's weekly news-sheet, and my Spy is incommunicado today...
My previous post (which I thought I'd deleted) is A Load Of Tosh. It's next Sunday which is being observed as The Conversion of St Paul.
@BroJames if you are Anglican (?) I doubt if many parishes would know Diadem very well as (at least around the west country) it is very much the 'chapel tune' with Miles Lane in C of E circles. I like it admittedly but got fingers burnt myself once (on a rare occasion a tune wasn't specified) as I did with Ladywell on another occasion for All hail the power which resulted in organ solo and an angry vicar 🤭 As to Waly Waly that is the luck of the draw ime.
Anyway only an Epiphany 2 Eucharist today for me to cover.
Songs of thankfulness (St Edmund)
Appleford setting
Alleluia was 'a capella'
The church's one foundation (Aurelia). ** sorry Aurelia haters 🤣
O thou who at thy Eucharist (Unde et memores)
Jesus shall reign (Truro) 😀
I was unwell last week so didn't report on the Epiphany feast, all pretty much normal EH hymns to the usual tunes but for the processional which was off The Sheet. Has anyone come across "Lo the pilgrim magi" (sorry don't remember the rest but had wonderful lyrics) I was told it originated either in Canada or USA. A manuscript was provided for the tune called Whitworth which I had never seen or heard before but was rather good. Interested to know if anyone has come across either tune or words before.
Shall we gather at the river.
Just as I Am
I'd say Cwm Rhondda, but I'm a dirty Yank so who knows.
I agree to about "Diadem" being the "chapel" tune for "All hail the power", as opposed to "Miles Lane" foe the Anglicans. I believe the Americans go for "Coronation".
(Gosh, all those inverted commas - I've probably created a world shortage).
PS "Lo, the pilgrim Magi" - see: https://hymnary.org/text/lo_the_pilgrim_magi#pagescans
Brightest and best (Epiphany)
Jesus calls us (St Andrew)
Just as I am (Saffron Walden)
The final hymn was (my Spy says) a 'modern' song, which was quite appropriate, and was sung well. She just can't recall what it was...
Growing up PCA, we had DIADEM and CORONATION in the hymnal, but sang the former. Lutheran contexts I've been in are more 50/50 MILES LANE/CORONATION, and although the TEC hymnal has both of those, I've only sung it in those contexts to CORONATION.
On another tangent I first came across "God of grace" in around 68/69 when it appeared in 100 hymns for today. As a student I rather liked the words and have only ever (in England) heard it to Regent Square which was the set tune in that book. Never been asked to play it to anything else although agree Rhuddlan would be a good fit.