"...like, you know, because I'm a Libra."

The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
edited July 27 in Hell
I'm sitting at a local coffee shop grabbing a cuppa between playing AM masses, and I've just been treated to witnessing a second interview of a college-age girl who's applying to work here. (I'm sitting outside, and the interview is taking place at the bistro table right behind me." The interviewer asked how she felt about engaging the public, and here supremely confident answer ended with the thread title. I confess to being a bit bemused. Is citing one's zodiac sign an employment tactic these days? I had no idea. I confess to not knowing the boilerplate traits of Libras, or any of the signs, but she clearly seemed to think her interviewer did, or at least did about Libras. And I guess she's fairly confident in a generally positiver attitude toward Astrology. Huh.

Not sure this belongs in Hell, unless people want or need to rant/vent about Astrology.
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  • The RogueThe Rogue Shipmate
    If you know the interviewer has a particular interest and can work it in why not?

    If I was interviewing and they said they were into motorsport, parkrun or cricket we could converse about them which would help build up a general picture but if they wanted to impress me for the job they would have to show familiarity with spreadsheets.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    I think this morsel of absurdity belongs in the Circus. But then, I'm a Taurus.
  • Gemini here.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Question: Can two Geminis survive together? Mrs Gramps and I are still trying to solve that question after 48 years.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Question: Can two Geminis survive together? Mrs Gramps and I are still trying to solve that question after 48 years.
    @Gramps49, doesn't that make four of you?

  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    I’m Pisces which means I don’t believe any of this stuff*


    (* Do not read this cautionary sentence!)
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Y
    Enoch wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Question: Can two Geminis survive together? Mrs Gramps and I are still trying to solve that question after 48 years.
    @Gramps49, doesn't that make four of you?

    Yep, sometimes we break out the card table and play with each other.
  • Merry VoleMerry Vole Shipmate
    I'm bemused that people even know their star sign -I'd have to Google my birthday to find out...
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    re: the anecdote in the OP...

    If I were the boss or the business-partner of the interviewer, and that interviewer accepted "...because I'm a Libra" as relevant to the hiring process, I would not be very happy.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    I'm bemused that people even know their star sign -I'd have to Google my birthday to find out...

    Has there ever been a time when someone told you, and you just forgot? Or has the subject absolutely never come up?

    I know my Chinese sign, but I could imagine it plausible that I'd never have found that out. But I think it quite unlikely that I could ever not have known my Babylonian sign.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    I've been told my star sign is, or should be, Uranus.
  • OK, so let me dive into the fray here. I am in two minds about all of this, but then, I am a Gemini. Something I have never been interested in, but couldn't avoid when I was younger.

    Actually, I think there is something in astrological traits. Not for the reasons they say, but the time of year you are born can have significant impacts on you - on schooling, for example. What year you are in. And social development also, whether you have birthday and Christmas separated or conflated. It is all how you fit in with the social world, so I can see this.

    Nothing to do with where Uranus is, of course.

    Also - I can picture that interview. And I think it shows someone who will talk about themselves. It sounds like someone who will interact well with others, will chat with them about herself, Which is probably what is needed. Nothing to do with her star sign, of course.

    If someone I was interviewing said that for a job in IT, They would immediately be on the no pile, of course, because we don't need people who waffle bullshit.
  • quetzalcoatlquetzalcoatl Shipmate
    I think most of my life I've had friends who were saturated in astrology, and had tons of books on it. I never felt very interested.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Astrological types annoy the bejasus out of me because I have enough knowledge of actual, like, astronomy to know it can only be utter bullshit.

    By nature I'm very much like Tim Michin here: https://genius.com/Tim-minchin-storm-lyrics
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Or indeed Flanders & Swann.
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited 9:23AM
    Lots of teenagers are interested in astrology. She sounds relaxed and chatty; ideal for working in a coffee shop.
    (I’m a caring cancer, lol)
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    I would love to just dismiss it all as poppycock, but then a voice whispers in my head "Yeah, but the stuff you Catholics are meant to believe."
  • Robertus LRobertus L Shipmate
    I suppose it depends on the job, it doesn't seem a big problem in this case, if the candidate meets all the other job requirements. as @Alan29 suggests, few spiritual/ religious beliefs bear rational scrutiny, or for that matter non spiritual/ religious beliefs.

    Might be different for a different job. I once sat on a disciplinary panel of a teacher who had run up a £800 bill on the school's telephones ringing astrological lines for guidance on her love life. She was the Head of the Science Department.

    Cancer - caring; born on a Friday - loving and giving,: Year of the fire horse - intelligent but stubborn ( in real life I'm both self righteous and bad tempered, a particularly unhelpful combination)
  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    As a keen amateur astronomer I have no time for astrology. When people ask me what my sign is, I say "No Parking".
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited 11:15AM
    Firenze wrote: »

    Yes, I thought of that - the clip omits Flanders' conclusion that Swann, who says he's a Libra, is the son of a Librarian...but his remarks may occur only on the recording of their Broadway concert (1967).

    *Lots of horror, but not much scope!*

  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    I'm bemused that people even know their star sign -I'd have to Google my birthday to find out...
    Really? In my experience in the US, it seems pretty common if not almost universal that people know their sign. It doesn’t mean they put any actual stock in it. For most people it’s just another piece of info connected to their birthdate; at most it’s something to have a little fun with.

    (I’m a Capricorn, by the way.)


  • It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    I have no interest in star signs. Dividing the population roughly into twelve and saying they have similar characteristics is nonsense to me.

    I have no idea what my son's star signs are. I never found out and I have no wish to know.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited 12:38PM
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    I criticise it because no-one's managed to provide any mechanism by which it could work, or any evidence that it does that holds water for five minutes. The constellations are nonsense as real entities; the nearest stars to us in Aquarius and Pisces, on opposite sides of the sky, are nearer to each other than they are to the other stars in "their" constellations. They just happen to lie in the same direction as viewed from the Solar System. The precession of the equinoxes means that the Sun isn't even in your alleged star sign on your birth date any more; the vernal equinox occurs when the sun is "in" Pisces now, just after it leaves Aquarius, not Aries, just as it leaves Pisces, as it does "astrologically". Nearly everyone's "star sign" is actually out by one.

    It really is on a par with believing that sticking your finger up a sheep's backside on Easter Monday making you fertile.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    Christians are followers of Jesus, reading and trying live by what he said.

    How is it droll that they don't see any value in astrology?

  • Boogie wrote: »
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    Christians are followers of Jesus, reading and trying live by what he said.

    How is it droll that they don't see any value in astrology?

    So you think salvation is empirically based?
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    I didn't mention salvation.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    Christians are followers of Jesus, reading and trying live by what he said.

    How is it droll that they don't see any value in astrology?
    I do find it interesting, if not exactly droll, that many of those Christians who see no value in astrology—or even consider it occult or satanic—are still quite happy at Christmas to tell and sing of the magi and the star that led them to Bethlehem.


  • quetzalcoatlquetzalcoatl Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    I didn't mention salvation.

    Blast, I've been a Catholic for 40 years, and I thought they were talking about salvation, ah well, try again.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    The difficulty is that astrology makes testable predictions about people and events in their lives which are observably false. Christianity is, for the most part, unfalsifiable. There is a big difference between believing something unproven or unprovable and something proven wrong.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Long ago, when I was on a course, I had a temporary landlady who would regale her lodgers with an endless succession of daft opinions. They seem to be collected randomly from everywhere, whether from the Readers' Digest (remember that anyone?) to the Daily Express and various women's magazines of the time. You could always tell when something particularly daft was coming because sit would be prefixed with 'I'm a great believer in .... '. Gimcrack astrology was a regular component in these pick-and-mix rabble of beliefs.

    She was always trying also to get out of you when your birthday was. This was extremely dangerous. Once she knew when you were born, she could pigeonhole you into a raft of characteristics which were supposed to go with whatever star sign went with the date, and this was irrespective of what she could see, or whether it fitted your personality at all. Once she knew a person's star sign, that was how she saw them, irrespective of the evidence in front of her. As that was how she saw a person, this became for here a self-endorsing motif.

  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    'sticking your finger up a sheep's backside on Easter Monday makes you fertile'.
    Well, it's worth a try .... is the sheep's star sign important?
    As for salvation, it happens every day for this follower of Jesus. As you know, Jesus was (is) Capricorn.

    Apparently, as a Taurus, I should be, 'Dependable, patient, and deeply appreciative of life's finer things' and marry a virgo. Fortunately, Mrs RR is indeed a virgo, soft and sensitive with a deep capacity for love.

    Well really, what a load of self-centered tosh. Utter tosh. It is right this should be in Hell. It is hellish and inimicable to any true religion.

    PS: Mrs RR wishes to make it clear she is no longer a virgo.
  • quetzalcoatlquetzalcoatl Shipmate
    It is quite droll to see Christians criticize astrology, I suppose for not being empirical. Who would have thunk it.

    The difficulty is that astrology makes testable predictions about people and events in their lives which are observably false. Christianity is, for the most part, unfalsifiable. There is a big difference between believing something unproven or unprovable and something proven wrong.

    I think you are half-right, in a way, astrology is too empirical. However, there is a wide spectrum, including psychological astrology, which is more symbolic. I'm not a fan of it. But people tend to take pop astrology as the entire thing, and I don't think it is. I was going to quote Jung, who was a fan, but I guess that is tosh.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited 3:02PM
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    'sticking your finger up a sheep's backside on Easter Monday makes you fertile'.
    Well, it's worth a try .... is the sheep's star sign important?
    As for salvation, it happens every day for this follower of Jesus. As you know, Jesus was (is) Capricorn.
    As I said, I’m a Capricorn, and when I noted that above, I came very close to typing my usual addendum: “just like Elvis and Jesus.”


  • quetzalcoatlquetzalcoatl Shipmate
    One of my points is, that people who rant about astrology, or let's say, criticize it, often know little about it. For example, it's often taken as the astrological reading in the magazine or newspaper, "you are Gemini, so you are good at communication". Well, it became a bit more sophisticated and symbolic, as with Jung.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    There are many who say why believe in the influence of the planets and stars when you believe in the one who created them.
    Anyway I am a water sign and my wife is a fire sign we should not be together.
    Those who take this stuff seriously say thing are much deeper than reading your daily fortune in the paper
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited 5:53PM
    You guys know Jesus was not likely born on Dec 25? He was more likely born in the spring. We place Jesus' birthday in the dark period of the (northern) year, about the time the sun starts to move north of the equator. The Romans called this time Saturnalia or Sol Invictus. Therefore, it is impossible to say Jesus is a Capricorn.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Tell that to Kris Kristofferson.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    And I guess she's fairly confident in a generally positiver attitude toward Astrology. Huh.

    I've met plenty of people who apparently believe in Astrology and like to import it in to every conversation they have. Any observable aspects of their or another's personality will be "explained" by their star sign. So I find it completely believable that such a person would use it in a job interview when discussing their personality traits.

    I am mildly put off by this kind of person (believe what you want, but I have no way of engaging with a discussion of how you were late for your bus because Mercury is in retrograde), and would tend not to hire such a person in a customer services role (I'd want waitstaff to be polite, personable, and efficient, and not inclined to drag their special interest in to every interaction with a customer.)
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    You guys know Jesus was not likely born on Dec 25? He was more likely born in the spring. We place Jesus' birthday in the dark period of the (northern) year, about the time the sun starts to move north of the equator. The Romans called this time Saturnalia or Sol Invictus. Therefore, it is impossible to say Jesus is a Capricorn.
    Yes, of course I know that. “I’m a Capricorn, just like Jesus,” is a joke—a joke that assumes those hearing it also know that Jesus wasn’t actually born on December 25.



  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    It really is on a par with believing that sticking your finger up a sheep's backside on Easter Monday making you fertile.

    Bloody hell Karl, even by rural standards that's kinky!

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