7 days if you have symptoms and 14 if you live with someone who has symptoms, to give you time to catch their illness, whatever it is. The idea is that if it is not covid in 7 days it will be getting better, and if it is it will be getting worse. And then you call the medical helpline, if you haven’t already. Since the people arriving in the area have no symptoms, 7 days gives them time for one of them to develop some, and plunge the household into a longer lockdown. I think.
The new Private Eye, knowing that Covid-19 hasn't yet reached Ambridge, has published a plea to people not to come to Borsetshire and spread the disease. It would place an enormous strain on the health services there, seeing that they don't actually exist.
What nonsense! Everyone knows that Borchester General is a centre of excellence in the treatment of every ailment known (and in this case, unknown) to man/woman.
7 days if you have symptoms and 14 if you live with someone who has symptoms, to give you time to catch their illness, whatever it is. The idea is that if it is not covid in 7 days it will be getting better, and if it is it will be getting worse. And then you call the medical helpline, if you haven’t already. Since the people arriving in the area have no symptoms, 7 days gives them time for one of them to develop some, and plunge the household into a longer lockdown. I think.
Asymtomatic people should quarantine for 14 days as it it will take up to a week to show symptoms and then they need at least a week with symptoms. But you don’t know if your people are asymtomatic carriers, who would still be infective after catching it for 7 days but just fon’t Show symptoms.
Just 7 days without symptoms doesn’t mean they don’t have it, unless they have prior exposure for 7 days.
They've been killing birds as well - the masts. that is. So we are told by someone who knows people who know things.
I think it should be essential that all students, reading whatever subject, but especially PPE, should be compelled to do a science course as well. How to spot rubbish at a glance. And then they wouldn't circulate to other people who can't spot it either.
History is actually a really good subject for learning evaluation of sources, or at least it was until people who Thought They Knew Better thought it should be more about memorizing details than understanding how we reliably ascertain those details.
Twenty days is the minimum those people would have to completely stay at home here. The general, country wide
14 in the UK for standard quarantine and 7 for symptomatic, unless you still have a temperature, but I agree that it probably should be longer. I have had symptoms for nearly 3 weeks, including cough, sore throat, fatigue (first week), chest pain and shortness of breath (second and third week) then fatigue again, but have not had a fever.
Office phone etiquette, too. Years ago, I was in a doctor's private office (not an exam room) to go over some stuff. Doc got a call from a patient, and *took the call with me there*! And discussed personal matters with the patient. And didn't wave me off. IIRC, I finally walked out and waited elsewhere in the clinic.
TICTH people coming from Edinburgh to covid it out in their second homes. Some I know, and usually welcome. This time I sent them a welcome email saying that since they would be self-isolating for 7 days, please let me know if they need anything and I would get the volunteer team into it. With a rider that the team is for keeping the whole community safe. They won’t know about the level of local feeling on this matter.
Also, I know that they are not registered with a local doctor, so if they get ill, they will be outed as those who think the rules do not apply to them. (And two of them are lawyers!). Scots have been told not to relocate to second homes in words of one syllable.
I take it you saw the story that the Scottish Chief Medical Officer was given a police warning
for doing precisely that? The CMO ! Dear God, if the CMO can't abide by the rules......
Her resignation is imminent, perhaps? It's certainly been called for.
I understand Nicola Sturgeon wishes her to remain in post. Repentance, forgiveness, restitution, and reinstatement would seem to be the Christian way...
But what an incredibly STUPID mistaka-ta-maka. Worth a good hour on the Naughty Step.
Our equivalent was probably The Minister of Health breaking the rules of the lockdown, driving to a suitable place so he could ride his Mountain bike. I can understand him wanting a ride to get away from it all, I have a brother who was tempted to do the same thing, but the rules here are that cars only be used for essential travel, to exercise locally and not to do any exercise that could result in an accident thus putting extra strain on emergency services.
He was sent home for the weekend and someone else stood in for him -
the equivalent of BF's naughty step.
broadcast messages regarding lockdown, no unnecessary travel etc.
I think the "do not travel" advice, and what is meant by "unnecessary", haven't really be emphasised enough.
I can see that if you have two, or more, 'homes' you could think that you are OK to use either or both, and if you get into your car at one, and get out of it at the other you are not in contact with anyone else. To most of us it is common sense to stay in your primary home, or the one where you happen to be when the lockdown starts.
Others need everything explained in words of one syllable. Repeatedly.
I think that some people are not thinking clearly at the moment, whether through panic, an inability to think about the impact of their behaviour on other people or a sense of their own entitlement.
In the queue at the local pharmacy a man failed to obey the 2 metres separation rule, When a woman challenged him he said, "I'm OK." She said that she wasn't sure that she was, and he moved back so fast it was comical.
She has. I can't imagine why she and her family were so brainless as to go to their country house - it's not as if she's stupid.
I'm assuming "brainless" is Prince Charles' excuse.
For Charles, I'm not sure that he will have chosen to go to <wherever he is in Scotland>.
His mum's in Windsor. He's in Scotland. His son is in Norfolk.
This might be a choice that they have all made, but it's also consistent with putting the monarch, the heir apparent and his heir in widely separated places so that they won't all be wiped out at once. And if that does happen, then conveniently (and this, I think, is a coincidence) the next in line after the Cambridges is in the USA - a long, long way away.
His mum's in Windsor. He's in Scotland. His son is in Norfolk.
This might be a choice that they have all made, but it's also consistent with putting the monarch, the heir apparent and his heir in widely separated places so that they won't all be wiped out at once. And if that does happen, then conveniently (and this, I think, is a coincidence) the next in line after the Cambridges is in the USA - a long, long way away.
William's three children are next in line. It's unlikely that they will all be wiped out
Reportedly happily ensconced in LA, where Meghan's from.
I wonder how that works. Unless he already has a green card, he's only allowed six months at a time in the USA, and that's if he has a visa (like me). Perhaps he has a diplomatic passport.
No luck there GK, but I managed to get the other one topped up thanks to the wonderful young woman at the Dairy (convenience store), which truly is an essential service. (only essential services are open thanks to the lockdown).
TICTH people coming from Edinburgh to covid it out in their second homes. Some I know, and usually welcome. This time I sent them a welcome email saying that since they would be self-isolating for 7 days, please let me know if they need anything and I would get the volunteer team into it. With a rider that the team is for keeping the whole community safe. They won’t know about the level of local feeling on this matter.
Also, I know that they are not registered with a local doctor, so if they get ill, they will be outed as those who think the rules do not apply to them. (And two of them are lawyers!). Scots have been told not to relocate to second homes in words of one syllable.
I take it you saw the story that the Scottish Chief Medical Officer was given a police warning
for doing precisely that? The CMO ! Dear God, if the CMO can't abide by the rules......
And it would appear we're not the only ones with a health minister who can't abide by the rules/advice they're dishing out! It beggars belief.
While doing my shopping run this morning I nearly crashed the vehicle. Right across the drive to a cottage occupied by a couple in their 80s was a vast pile of rubbish: 2 mattresses, cooker, washing machine, 'fridge plus assorted split bags of domestic waste.
I sent the unexpected house-guest to get the couple's shopping list while I called police and council.
We delivered the stuff later on foot and will wait to see what happens about getting the mess cleared up. And we'll be paying for that out of Council Tax
I thought for a moment that perhaps the elderly couple had made good use of their self-isolation by a Major Decluttering exercise, but I see what you both mean.
Hopefully the culprits will be discovered (O! That tell-tale envelope in the rubbish bag!) and duly prosecuted, fined, imprisoned, and executed.
Somebody dumped a huge pile of garbage, including a great big safe, on my BFF's property!!!! To do it, they had to run over the carefully wrapped bundles (wood with nails bundled to eliminate danger to the garbage men) which split them open so they had to be rebundled. Some people are just jerks, aren't they?
I'm not quite following. What do you think happened? I'd say that most 80 yr olds couldn't manage putting that stuff out. So...thieves? A worker who stopped and left?
Locally the refuse dumps all closed recently without a lot of warning. Those still working on sites may have been caught out. And fly tipping has always been an route for the unscrupulous.
Ah, so someone dumping off their trash in the driveway, since the dumps are closed? Yuck. If someone's going to do that, why not put it in a back alley, or by a long-abandoned building, or even outside the real dump? (Ok, they might get arrested at the dump.)
Because those of us who live by the back alleys and long-abandoned buildings (garages) don't want the fly-tipping and resultant rats either. I've reported the next round of it but have no hope of anything being done. Not just because of the Current Situation, but as it's a long-running saga here and for the third time in 5 years the promised demolition of the garages has been put on hold.
Here, not only have the council tips closed, but they've also stopped uplifting bulky waste: the instruction is to "Please leave any unwanted items safely on your own property such as your back garden or your back court and remain mindful of any fire risk."
They are taking general waste (food waste now to be included in this) and recycling only. Public glass bins are still cleared (city, with lots of flats, so no domestic glass collection from those), but if you live in a house with a glass bin, it won't be emptied.
So if you do have bulky/white goods waste, you have to hang onto it....
I didn't realise that the tips had all closed (not having much occasion to use them), so yes, it does present a problem to those who find themselves with rubbish they can't get rid of.
That doesn't mean they have licence to dump it on someone else, though - and the collection of domestic rubbish (wheelie-bins/black bags/garden waste) is still being done regularly (well, here, at any rate).
BTW, common practice here, if you have anything in the way of metal/electrical goods to get rid of, is to simply leave it on the pavement for the local scrap merchants to pick up. This, I suspect, is not entirely by-the-book, but the items tend to disappear very quickly indeed.
It was very much the thing in Newfoundland when we lived there: you'd sometimes see entire three-piece suites out on the verge in front of council houses.
We once picked up a scruffy little chest of drawers from outside a block of flats round the corner from our house. All it needed was a few coats of paint (applied by me) and new drawer handles (affixed by our friendly handyman), and it was good to go as a useful piece of kitchen/dining-room furniture (our kitchen was woefully short of drawers).
Here, not only have the council tips closed, but they've also stopped uplifting bulky waste: the instruction is to "Please leave any unwanted items safely on your own property such as your back garden or your back court and remain mindful of any fire risk."
They are taking general waste (food waste now to be included in this) and recycling only. Public glass bins are still cleared (city, with lots of flats, so no domestic glass collection from those), but if you live in a house with a glass bin, it won't be emptied.
So if you do have bulky/white goods waste, you have to hang onto it....
Same here. And, at first, they said that we could put a little bit of garden waste into our bins. Then they changed their mind because (a) they feared people would abuse it and (b) their refuse-to-power incinerator would not be happy. So we have to hang onto that, too.
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Just 7 days without symptoms doesn’t mean they don’t have it, unless they have prior exposure for 7 days.
History is actually a really good subject for learning evaluation of sources, or at least it was until people who Thought They Knew Better thought it should be more about memorizing details than understanding how we reliably ascertain those details.
So much for patient confidentiality...
I take it you saw the story that the Scottish Chief Medical Officer was given a police warning
for doing precisely that? The CMO ! Dear God, if the CMO can't abide by the rules......
I understand Nicola Sturgeon wishes her to remain in post. Repentance, forgiveness, restitution, and reinstatement would seem to be the Christian way...
But what an incredibly STUPID mistaka-ta-maka. Worth a good hour on the Naughty Step.
He was sent home for the weekend and someone else stood in for him -
the equivalent of BF's naughty step.
Whether she herself is now under house arrest, I couldn't say...
Probably to get away from repeated questioning about what on earth she thought she was doing.
I can see that if you have two, or more, 'homes' you could think that you are OK to use either or both, and if you get into your car at one, and get out of it at the other you are not in contact with anyone else. To most of us it is common sense to stay in your primary home, or the one where you happen to be when the lockdown starts.
Others need everything explained in words of one syllable. Repeatedly.
I'm assuming "brainless" is Prince Charles' excuse.
In the queue at the local pharmacy a man failed to obey the 2 metres separation rule, When a woman challenged him he said, "I'm OK." She said that she wasn't sure that she was, and he moved back so fast it was comical.
For Charles, I'm not sure that he will have chosen to go to <wherever he is in Scotland>.
His mum's in Windsor. He's in Scotland. His son is in Norfolk.
This might be a choice that they have all made, but it's also consistent with putting the monarch, the heir apparent and his heir in widely separated places so that they won't all be wiped out at once. And if that does happen, then conveniently (and this, I think, is a coincidence) the next in line after the Cambridges is in the USA - a long, long way away.
William's three children are next in line. It's unlikely that they will all be wiped out
I wonder how that works. Unless he already has a green card, he's only allowed six months at a time in the USA, and that's if he has a visa (like me). Perhaps he has a diplomatic passport.
As I live alone and am in lockdown this is a bit of a problem.
I am hoping I can get an old pne topped up - but I am seriously pissed off.
Thought: Have you checked online for the owner's manual, advice, etc.? There's lots out there, like Manuals Lib.
Good luck!
And it would appear we're not the only ones with a health minister who can't abide by the rules/advice they're dishing out! It beggars belief.
Gobshites, one and all, and they deserve to lose all their pension rights, emoluments, back-handers, possible lucrative consultancies etc. etc.
Yes, I'm cross. Cuz I'm stuck at home, with nowhere else to go, and nothing to do if I got there anyway...
I sent the unexpected house-guest to get the couple's shopping list while I called police and council.
We delivered the stuff later on foot and will wait to see what happens about getting the mess cleared up. And we'll be paying for that out of Council Tax
Hopefully the culprits will be discovered (O! That tell-tale envelope in the rubbish bag!) and duly prosecuted, fined, imprisoned, and executed.
I'm not quite following. What do you think happened? I'd say that most 80 yr olds couldn't manage putting that stuff out. So...thieves? A worker who stopped and left?
Thx.
Damn all fly-tippers to Hell, and back again. And then back to Hell for the second (and final) time.
They are taking general waste (food waste now to be included in this) and recycling only. Public glass bins are still cleared (city, with lots of flats, so no domestic glass collection from those), but if you live in a house with a glass bin, it won't be emptied.
So if you do have bulky/white goods waste, you have to hang onto it....
That doesn't mean they have licence to dump it on someone else, though - and the collection of domestic rubbish (wheelie-bins/black bags/garden waste) is still being done regularly (well, here, at any rate).
BTW, common practice here, if you have anything in the way of metal/electrical goods to get rid of, is to simply leave it on the pavement for the local scrap merchants to pick up. This, I suspect, is not entirely by-the-book, but the items tend to disappear very quickly indeed.
We once picked up a scruffy little chest of drawers from outside a block of flats round the corner from our house. All it needed was a few coats of paint (applied by me) and new drawer handles (affixed by our friendly handyman), and it was good to go as a useful piece of kitchen/dining-room furniture (our kitchen was woefully short of drawers).